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To: Political Junkie Too
Until someone tries to stop debate, it is just debate. Once an attempt to stop debate fails and debate continues, wouldn't that then become filibuster?

"Filibuster" isn't even a legal term. It doesn't appear in the Senate rules. It's a colloquial term. So there's no way to decide, as a legal matter, whether what has happened or is happening is accurately called a "filibuster."

But, whatever we call it, if the DemocRATs succeed in blocking Estrada's appointment, they will have successfully set a precedent (actually a further precedent, after Fortas) that, where a party is willing to use all its power, 60 Senate votes are needed for the confirmation of a judge. It's that (further) precedent that we ought to want to stop, and it seems to me a cloture vote is a way to try to stop it.

269 posted on 03/01/2003 10:46:10 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
You'll get no argument from me on this.

-PJ

272 posted on 03/01/2003 10:48:20 AM PST by Political Junkie Too
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