[Non-Sequitur]

Just by the way, I note that Berkeley council gives away $145,000 in grants annually for the 'arts.' What do you think is of more value, to the community? Scouts, or some crappy modern 'art'?

Arts is a broad term. If that includes funding for a symphony or ballet or opera then that's money well spent. The Boy Scouts seem to do OK raising money on their own.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..arts is a broad term. If that includes funding for a symphony or ballet or opera then that's money well spent...

...and where do you think the Berkeley Council directs their funding, bud? 'Symphony, ballet and opera'?

I can predict without checking that their funding will be weighted towards the self-indulgent PC ugliness that passes for 'art', amongst their kind.