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To: HumanaeVitae
We don't punish people for their morals, or lack thereof. We punish them for actions.

Often those actions are immoral, although we have criminalized many things that have nothing to do with morality.

The question is whether we should criminalize all behavior which is immoral, but the problem is that opinions differ as to whether some actions are immoral, even among good people.

Some people think it is immoral to consume alcohol, while others do not. I think it is perfectly moral and logically consistent for someone to say that they are personally opposed to alcohol consumption, but that they won't seek to impose that belief on anyone else.

Do you agree?

11 posted on 02/28/2003 9:53:12 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Do you agree?

I don't know if HV agrees but I certainly don't. Comparing the privilege of drinking to the right to life is sophistry.

Again to be personally against abortion, you must believe that it takes an innocent human life absent due process or informed consent. To then say that it is OK for others to choose is farcical. Is it OK if they say it's OK to kill you even if they themselves wouldn't do it?

18 posted on 02/28/2003 9:59:05 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Dog Gone
The question is whether we should criminalize all behavior which is immoral, but the problem is that opinions differ as to whether some actions are immoral, even among good people.

Some people think it is immoral to consume alcohol, while others do not. I think it is perfectly moral and logically consistent for someone to say that they are personally opposed to alcohol consumption, but that they won't seek to impose that belief on anyone else.

Excellent post. Mine was about sex and you made the same kind of point in a more general sense. The morality about killing a life that may or may not have a soul and a spirit, vs killing a bug, is very tough. We have no way to prove that a living adult has a soul and a spirit let alone a living sperm/egg combination.

34 posted on 02/28/2003 10:07:54 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Dog Gone
You're right Dog, I didn't clarify that enough. Actions. Anyway, my original point still stands. The question is whether or not an unborn child is a life or not, not whether or not someone is imposing their "personal view" on someone.
98 posted on 02/28/2003 10:45:31 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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