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To: Condorman
As Physicist says so much better than I, "The same thing that is south of the South Pole."

Let's keep this our little secret, but I still consider this ["before the BB"] to be a very open question. As a practical matter (whatever that may mean in this context) Physicist's answer is quite sufficient. But at some level, which is probably more psychological than cosmological, it fails to satisfy.

42 posted on 02/28/2003 12:23:08 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: PatrickHenry
Let's keep this our little secret, but I still consider this ["before the BB"] to be a very open question. As a practical matter (whatever that may mean in this context) Physicist's answer is quite sufficient. But at some level, which is probably more psychological than cosmological, it fails to satisfy.

Oh, I quite agree. If I understand things correctly, we are not privy to any evidence about the state of things prior to the BB. I personally believe that any theory we come up with is equally likely as any other answer, and that's where faith steps in to lend a hand.

But as far as we puny humans are concerned, natural history started at the Big Bang.

44 posted on 02/28/2003 12:43:51 PM PST by Condorman (Ok, Space Cadets! Prepare to hurtle through the Cosmos!)
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To: PatrickHenry
But at some level, which is probably more psychological than cosmological, it fails to satisfy.

It's unsatisfying for a deeper reason. The South Pole isn't a real singularity but the Big Bang is I think. Suppose you've a 1d space plus time with a BB. Draw a cirle in the spacetime around the BB. Time will be pointing "out" all around the circle and space pointing in one direction around (e.g. counterclockwise). You can't extend this to a continuous, non-vanishing coordinate system within the circle.

I don't see an out with higher dimensional spaces but perhaps there would be if the space weren't orientable or were multiply connected or something like that.

61 posted on 02/28/2003 8:53:07 PM PST by edsheppa
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