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LYING ABOUT ISLAM
New York Post ^ | 2/28/03 | STEPHEN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 02/28/2003 1:40:42 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:12:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

AMERICANS have a lot to learn about Islam - even in the aftermath of the horrors of 9/11. While the atrocities of that day provided a wake-up call about terrorism, our political and media elites continue to show us that they haven't done their homework on the religious background of al Qaeda - and are likely not to.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam

1 posted on 02/28/2003 1:40:43 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
In other words: The American "mainstream media" is a propaganda machine.
2 posted on 02/28/2003 1:58:39 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: kattracks
Do the Shi'a believe, as Muslims are supposedly required to, that the Qur'an is the Literal Word of God and may not be abridged, amended, or interpreted? For it is the Qur'an which commands Muslims to slay the infidel or convert him by force. It is the Qur'an which demands that Islam exercise total political control over all the world. It is the Qur'an which licenses Muslims' deceit, their predations, and their horrifying barbarities toward women, toward non-Muslims, and toward Muslims who leave Islam, or dare to inquire into their prophet's actual career on Earth.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com

4 posted on 02/28/2003 4:09:27 AM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: Savage Beast
"In other words: The American "mainstream media" is a propaganda machine"

Well, haven't we know this for a long time now?

5 posted on 02/28/2003 4:21:13 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: kattracks
While the atrocities of that day provided a wake-up call about terrorism...

That day was a wake-up call about Islam.

6 posted on 02/28/2003 4:57:14 AM PST by rickmichaels (American in Spirit)
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To: fporretto
>Do the Shi'a believe, as Muslims are supposedly required to, that the Qur'an is the Literal Word of God and may not be abridged, amended, or interpreted?

As I understand it, the Shiites are like Unitarians. No they do not interpret the commands for jihand literally, instead they transformed the concept into 'spiritual struggle.'

7 posted on 02/28/2003 5:02:38 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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8 posted on 02/28/2003 5:05:45 AM PST by Enemy Of The State (To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.)
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To: kattracks
Q&A on Islam and Arab-Americans

Q: What is Islam?

A: Muslims believe in one God and in the Day of Judgment and individual accountability for actions. Muslims believe in a chain of prophets beginning with Adam and including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob Joseph, Job, Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus. God's message was reaffirmed and finalized by the Prophet Muhammad. Islam is a religion of peace, mercy and forgiveness. Muslims pray in a mosque in the same way that Christians pray in a church.

Q: What is the Koran?

A: The Koran, or Quran, is the Muslim holy book, like the Bible is to Christianity. It is the record of the exact words revealed by God to the Prophet Muhammad. It was memorized by Muhammad and then dictated to his companions.

Q: What does 'Islam' mean?

A: The Arabic word "Islam" means "submission," and it derives from a word meaning "peace." In a religious context it means complete submission to the will of God. "Allah" is the Arabic name for God, which is used by Arab Muslims and Christians alike.

Q: What are the 'Five Pillars' of Islam?

They are the framework for Muslim life:

The declaration of faith: "There is no deity but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God."

Prayer: Muslims perform five obligatory prayers each day. Islamic prayers are a direct link between the worshiper and God. Islam has no hierarchical authority or priesthood.

Zakat: One of the most important principles of Islam is that all things belong to God and that wealth is held in trust by human beings. Zakat, or charitable giving, "purifies" wealth by setting aside a portion for those in need.

Fasting: Every year in the Islamic lunar month of Ramadan, Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset. The fast is another method of self-purification.

Pilgrimage: A pilgrimage to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, or Hajj as it is is called in Arabic, is an obligation for those who are physically and financially able to make the journey.

Q: Who are the Muslims?

A: People who follow the Islamic faith come from all over the world. No more than 20% of Muslims live in the Arabic-speaking world. The country with the largest Muslim population is Indonesia.

Q: What about the American Muslim community?

A: An estimated 7 million Muslims live in the USA. They are made up of people from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds and national origins. Islam is one of the fastest-growing religions in the United States and around the world.

Q: What is the role of women in Islam?

A: Under Islamic law, women have always had the right to own property, receive an education and otherwise take part in community life. Men and women are to be respected equally. The Islamic rules for modest dress apply to women and men equally.

Q: Why do Muslim women cover their hair?

A: Islam teaches modesty for women and men. Women are required to cover their bodies so that their figure is not revealed and only their faces and hands are shown. The head scarf is called a hijab or chador. The long, robelike garment is called an abayah, jilbab or chador. This requirement is designed to protect women and give them respect. The dress of Muslim women is similar to that of Christian nuns, who also cover their bodies and hair. Muslim women are not required to cover their faces as is done in some Middle Eastern countries.

Q: Some Arab men wear a checked garment on their heads. What is that?

A: It is called a kafiyyeh, and it is traditional, not religious. Wearing the kafiyyeh is similar to an African-American wearing traditional African attire or an Indian wearing a sari. The kafiyyeh shows identity and pride in one's culture.

Q: What is jihad?

A: Jihad does not mean "holy war." Literally, jihad in Arabic means to strive, struggle and exert effort. It is a central and broad Islamic concept that includes struggle against evil inclinations within oneself, struggle to improve the quality of life in society, struggle in the battlefield for self-defense or fighting against tyranny or oppression.

Q: What does Islam say about Christianity?

A: Islam teaches that Christians and Muslims are both "people of the book." By that it means that the two religions share the same basic beliefs articulated through the Bible and the Koran. The main difference between Christians and Muslims is that Muslims do not believe that Jesus was the son of God. Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet who was granted special powers by God to show people the power of God.

Q: What does Islam say about Judaism?

A: Islam teaches that Jews and Muslims are both "people of the book." By that it means that the two religions share the same basic beliefs articulated through the Torah and the Koran. The main difference between Jews and Muslims is that Jews do not believe in the prophets after the Jewish prophets, including Muhammad and his teachings. Muslims, on the other hand, believe in all the prophets including Moses, Ibraham, Jackob, Ishmael, Issac and Jesus.

Q: How does Islam view terrorism?

A: Islam does not support terrorism under any circumstances. Terrorism goes against every principle in Islam. If a Muslim engages in terrorism, he is not following Islam. He may be wrongly using the name of Islam for political or financial gain.

Q: Does Islam tolerate other beliefs?

A: Yes. It is one function of Islamic law to protect the privileged status of minorities. Islamic law also permits non-Muslims to set up their own courts, which implement family laws drawn up by the minorities themselves.

Q: What is an appropriate way to greet an Arab-American?

A: This is not difficult or tricky. Remember that most Arab-Americans grew up in the USA and do not require special greetings. Be yourself, and let them be themselves. If they are practicing Muslims or recent immigrants, watch for cues. A smile, a nod and a word of greeting are appropriate in most situations. Some Muslims feel it is inappropriate for unrelated men and women to shake hands. Wait until the other person extends his or her hand before you extend your own.

Source: USATODAY.com research

9 posted on 02/28/2003 6:27:26 AM PST by BufordP
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Oh come on! Islam says that Moses is a prophet, and that Jesus is a prophet, but Islam does not even follow the 10 commandments given by God, himself, to Moses and written by God's own hand on stone. What good is a so called prophet if you do not believe in him enough to follow him? The same is true of Jesus. Why say that Jesus is a prophet and yet not believe him? Islam does not follow Jesus teachings, perfering Mohammed's teaching instead. Mohammed wanted to be considered greater than the sinless Jesus. Mohammed lived in Saudi Arabia 600 years after Jesus, and he claimed that Jesus never died, thus rendering him incapable of forgiving sin, by the shedding of his blood. Mohammed claims that Jesus somehow got into heaven and will come again, and then follow HIM, and then die after 40 years. Mohammed did not know that Jesus came to destroy death, for it is our last enemy, and Jesus will NEVER have to die again. It is over now! Praise God!
10 posted on 02/28/2003 3:19:20 PM PST by tessalu
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To: fporretto
Do the Shi'a believe, as Muslims are supposedly required to, that the Qur'an is the Literal Word of God and may not be abridged, amended, or interpreted? For it is the Qur'an which commands Muslims to slay the infidel or convert him by force. It is the Qur'an which demands that Islam exercise total political control over all the world. It is the Qur'an which licenses Muslims' deceit, their predations, and their horrifying barbarities toward women, toward non-Muslims, and toward Muslims who leave Islam, or dare to inquire into their prophet's actual career on Earth.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason:
Visit The Palace Of Reason The core belief is as you say...imo... The attenuated moderated belief is at odds with the pure form..

If you a "true" believer than deceit violence and any means to convert and forward Islam is both necessary and required...the moderates are the 'Trojan Horse' soldiers willing or unwilling it matters little....in the end...the results will be the same....

This is only "evil" if you are an infidel...for if you commit these acts in obediance and are following Muhammed and the Koran you are a righteous man.....

For a Christian to do these kinds of evil.. .is a violation of the bible and the words of Christ... and you are condemned for such things.. The Shi'a form will never be allowed to prevail..unless it is in a country that protects it from the real deal...the pure form...and Wahabbi is one of the closest to the pure form...

It is imo the Wahabbi Lobby (aka CAIR) will dominate..unless we stop it...but they are so prevelent right here among us and have sucessfully "lobbied" (and I use the term loosely) our politicians..they will be tough to stop..the oil money keeps them alive..as well as our so called leaders

If they continue to buy up Madison Ave PR time and Hollywood and the publication media only the internet will impede their progress ...I watch for the Wahhabi Lobby (CAIR) to influence politicans to make neg comments against them a "hate crime"...and for them to demand protection...then we will see which politicans they have in their pockets...ala Don Corleone

11 posted on 03/03/2003 9:47:26 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: kattracks
Some people here at FreeRepublic think that this site is turning into a hate-filled, anti-Islamic site.
12 posted on 03/03/2003 9:54:01 AM PST by DoctorMichael ("Pacifism.......is Pro-Fascist" ~~~~~George Orwell)
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To: DoctorMichael
Oops! Sorry......................{/sarcasm}.
13 posted on 03/03/2003 9:55:28 AM PST by DoctorMichael ("Pacifism.......is Pro-Fascist" ~~~~~George Orwell)
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