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The dark side of China
BBC ^ | Rupert Wingfield-Hayes

Posted on 02/27/2003 9:53:36 PM PST by maui_hawaii

If you stroll down to the Starbucks near my flat in Beijing you will invariably find it packed with well-dressed young Chinese happily sipping their mochas and cappuccinos.

Just across the street rise the familiar golden arches of Macdonald's. Its all very comforting.

Today China is a free wheeling market economy, its top executives are educated at Harvard and Oxford.

Even its Communist leaders hobnob with Bush and Blair, and talk of free trade and the fight against terror.

Living here it is easy to be lulled in to a sense that China really has changed.

But then something happens that brings you shuddering back down to earth with a bump.

Two weeks ago I woke up to just such an event.

As I walked to work a black sedan slipped out of a side street and began crawling along a few metres behind me.

Outside the BBC office there was another.

Through its dark tinted glass I could just make out the shapes of four thickset men eyeing me closely.

Tiananmen protest

What on earth is going on? I thought.

As the morning wore on it started to become clear.

Media reports said 14 foreign members of the Falun Gong religious sect had been arrested in a Beijing hotel.

Then came an anonymous call.

"There will be a protest in Tiananmen Square," the caller said and hung up.

We leapt into the car. As we pulled out of the office not one, not two, but three black sedans swept out behind us.

On Tiananmen Square the security was like I had never seen before.

Scores of uniformed police were there, along with literally hundreds of plainclothes police - young tough looking men all with the same crew-cuts and mobile phones.

As I stood and watched small groups of foreign protesters unfurled banners and began chanting: "Falun Gong is good! Stop the repression!"

From the four corners of the square, hundreds of police began running.

In minutes it was over, the protesters tackled to the ground and hauled away to waiting police vans.

I began walking back to the BBC car to file my report.

Police interrogation

But as I passed the huge Stalinist history museum on the east side of the square a police car squealed to a halt beside me.

Two men and a woman leapt out.

"What are you doing?" They demanded.

"Nothing," I said.

"You must come with us," they insisted.

Why?" I asked, my hackles beginning to rise. "I haven't done anything".

"It doesn't matter. You must come with us."

I was taken to a nearby police station and frog marched in to an interrogation room.

Several other foreign journalists were already there. I began chatting to one.

"Stop talking," one of the policemen shouted.

"What do you mean?" I said. "You can't order me to stop talking."

"I can tell you what I like," he shouted back. "I am the police!"

I told him he was being stupid - probably not the most sensible thing to do.

He strode up grabbed me by the throat and shoved me against the wall glowering.

My stomach tightened. For a moment I really thought he would hit me.

"Who are you calling stupid?" he sneered, his face inches from mine.

"You have carried out an illegal activity.

"Did you apply to go to Tiananmen Square? Why were you there? Who told you to go?"

The barrage of questioning continued for two hours.

Intimidation

They tried to get me to sign a confession admitting I had broken China's laws by going to the square.

I refused. Eventually I was allowed to go.

Outside the BBC office the black sedans were back in place.

For the next few days they followed me everywhere I went - to Starbucks for coffee, even when I went to the park with my son.

The thickset men were never far away. They made no attempt to hide - if anything they did the opposite.

The idea was to intimidate, to prevent me doing my job as a journalist.

It was a minor irritation, and after a few days they went away - at least for now.

But the incident said much about the nature of China's system.

Secret files

Chinese who dare to criticise or challenge the government face it every day.

One prominent dissident I know has had a team of police watching her for 10 years.

Wherever she goes, whatever she does, they are always there in the background.

But it is not just dissidents. The system of control goes deeper.

The Chinese state holds a personal dossier on every single one of its citizens - its called a Dang An.

You can never see it - you don't know what it contains - but it can control your destiny.

A black mark against you - a bad school report, a disagreement with your boss, a visit to a psychiatrist - all can travel with you for the rest of your life.

One person I know once caught a glimpse of her Dang An.

In it was a pink slip of paper she recognised as coming from her Primary school.

Things she had done as an eight-year-old child are still following her more than 20 years later.

Until that changes, the fancy coffee shops and skyscrapers of Beijing will remain a veneer for a police state that relies on coercion and fear to maintain control.


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1 posted on 02/27/2003 9:53:36 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Sounds like Hillarys dream come true.
2 posted on 02/27/2003 10:01:57 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Husker24
HAHAH!!!
3 posted on 02/27/2003 10:10:12 PM PST by lone_conservative_law_student
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To: maui_hawaii
This is what the Democrats want, and their venier is civil rights advocacy. Makes me want to heave.
4 posted on 02/27/2003 10:13:24 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: maui_hawaii
bump ...
5 posted on 02/27/2003 10:19:23 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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To: maui_hawaii
In it was a pink slip of paper she recognised as coming from her Primary school.

This is going on your permanent record young lady!

6 posted on 02/27/2003 10:32:08 PM PST by glorgau
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To: maui_hawaii
RE #1

A dossier for every Chinese ? They must have cut a lot of trees. The historians in the future may salivate about the mountains of records PRC compiled on every Chinese, though.
7 posted on 02/28/2003 2:00:16 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: maui_hawaii
Until that changes, the fancy coffee shops and skyscrapers of Beijing will remain a veneer for a police state that relies on coercion and fear to maintain control.

That it took an incident like this to happen personally to him is a example of the problem.

Today China is a free wheeling market economy, its top executives are educated at Harvard and Oxford.

Even its Communist leaders hobnob with Bush and Blair, and talk of free trade and the fight against terror.

Another example of the problem -- this is fantasyland. The above statements are not accurate.

But such incredible exagerations are too common among the press.

8 posted on 02/28/2003 6:14:06 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Husker24
And Dilldo and Shrillary are both working hard to bring it to a village, neighborhood and walls near you.

Gotta get some more FREEPCARDS done! Sigh.
9 posted on 02/28/2003 11:03:00 AM PST by Quix
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To: maui_hawaii
The powers that be in the PRC know that the very second they release their grip the whole country will come unglued.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 11:23:16 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
Today's Third World republics are already unglued. Democratic Latin America as we speak is falling into anarchy. Democratic Indonesia and the Philippines are so weak and dysfunctional they've become breeding grounds for terrorists. In the past year, democratic Turkey and Brazil needed multi-billion dollar IMF bailouts. Democratic Venezuela is experiencing daily street clashes. The blacks in the democratic countries of Africa vote to steal the white landowners' land. If you make a list of all the Third World republics in the world and their various problems, it's no wonder that foreign investors much prefer to invest in China.
11 posted on 02/28/2003 8:37:18 PM PST by TaiwanSemiconductor
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To: TaiwanSemiconductor
If you make a list of all the Third World republics in the world and their various problems, it's no wonder that foreign investors much prefer to invest in China.

Stability in China is an illusion. That'll become more & more apparent as their economy continues to slip.

12 posted on 02/28/2003 8:46:20 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
No, it's the blind belief that democracy automatically confers stability that is the illusion. Witness the chaos today in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Indonesia, S. Africa, Turkey, etc. While you predict that China may "one day" collapse, you totally ignore the reality that today's Third World republics are already feckless basketcases. Given the choice between being the next Third World democratic joke or following in the footsteps of one-party Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc., it's a no-brainer which path China will want to take. After all, after 50 years of democracy, has India become a mirror image of America yet?
13 posted on 02/28/2003 9:51:36 PM PST by TaiwanSemiconductor
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To: TaiwanSemiconductor
I'm afraid you misunderstand me - I'm not arguing in favor of democracy in China.

Many of my Chinese friends tell me Chinese are not naturally amenable to democracy - I'll take their word for it.

Frankly, I don't even think democracy could keep China from falling apart. One has only to look at Chinese history. It WILL happen.

14 posted on 03/01/2003 6:33:23 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
People have been saying China will fall apart for the past 5,000 years, but China today is still alive while all those who predicted otherwise are dead and buried.
15 posted on 03/01/2003 8:40:14 PM PST by TaiwanSemiconductor
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To: skeeter
In general, democracy is rare in world history. Other than ancient Athens or modern democracy (over the past 200 years or), there's hardly anything to argue that democracy constitutes constitutes some sort of historical "norm." Quite to the contrary, authoritarianism is the historical norm and has proven itself to be more long-lasting and stable than the fleeting instances of democracy. Who knows? America may end up like ancient Athens.
16 posted on 03/01/2003 8:57:44 PM PST by TaiwanSemiconductor
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To: skeeter
Many of my Chinese friends tell me Chinese are not naturally amenable to democracy - I'll take their word for it.

Interesting that you say that. A Chinese professor of mine holds the same view. I asked him why the Chinese don't try to change their government, and his answer was that, to them, the present Communist regime is an extension of historical China -- that it is what China is. He said that most of the people dislike the communists, but they just consider this to be a rough time for China, with unusually heavy-handed rulers, and they have reconciled themselves to it. The idea of "throwing the bums out" isn't even considered, because somehow the bums are China. It's pretty wild. I think the Chinese are authentic collectivists and have been since ancient times.

17 posted on 03/01/2003 9:33:26 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
I think the Chinese are authentic collectivists and have been since ancient times.

Possibly, but it would be a mistake to believe that the Chinese are monolithic in their perception of the party leadersh in Beijing. Its a very regional proposition.

China has to have a overbearing central government, or they will decend into a collection of warring states, as they had done on & off for thousands of years.

As I said, all Beijing has to do is loosen its grip, just a little.

18 posted on 03/03/2003 6:56:03 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: TaiwanSemiconductor
Who knows? America may end up like ancient Athens.

I hope not. Then who'll buy China's trinkets?

19 posted on 03/03/2003 7:00:00 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: maui_hawaii
This is why we have a 2nd Amendment and this is why the left wing wants to disarm us.
20 posted on 03/03/2003 7:09:00 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot
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