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The Why of Homeschool - new sitcom to treat homeschooling as negative
http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1167&month=53&title=The+Why+of+Homeschool&id=53 ^

Posted on 02/25/2003 4:48:47 PM PST by chance33_98

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To: 7 x 77
Let's say your a traditional Catholic in the Chicago area, shouldn't you be able to find a Catholic school that shares your values and wouldn't that option be preferable to home schooling?

Not to answer a question with a question, but why do you think that a Catholic school would be preferable to home schooling? Just curious.

61 posted on 02/26/2003 1:34:40 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: fml
think so. A town that would support your values would be even more preferable. I don't mean to be rude, but homeschool isn't for me.

You are missing the point.

Homeschool is for our children.

Really.

62 posted on 02/26/2003 3:52:03 PM PST by don-o
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To: annyokie
You wrote:

""libidinal" is not a word. Who proofs this crap?"

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It's pronounced.."Lib in denial" A common malady of the left.

FRegards,

63 posted on 02/26/2003 4:03:19 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: FourPeas
Let's say your a traditional Catholic in the Chicago area, shouldn't you be able to find a Catholic school that shares your values and wouldn't that option be preferable to home schooling?

Not to answer a question with a question, but why do you think that a Catholic school would be preferable to home schooling? Just curious.

I don't know much about home schooling, but I assumed the reason to do it is if you don't have access to a school that shares your values.

64 posted on 02/26/2003 4:28:37 PM PST by 7 x 77
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To: Aquinasfan
MY QUESTION: Let's say your a traditional Catholic in the Chicago area, shouldn't you be able to find a Catholic school that shares your values and wouldn't that option be preferable to home schooling?

YOUR RESPONSE: No. Some reasons:

MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS: At first blush, these are the concerns I'd have:

• Won't the home school children be stunted in their ability to relate to peers and other adults?

• Won't they miss out on the expertise and wisdom from the teachers? Afterall, the parts of the Body of Christ have their different gifts to offer.

65 posted on 02/26/2003 4:45:04 PM PST by 7 x 77
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To: 7 x 77
Won't the home school children be stunted in their ability to relate to peers and other adults?

You're joking, right? Either that or you have never encountered the concept of homeschooling before, except in the parody offered by the leftist TV networks. Even Time and Newsweek have dropped this canard.

For the record, in every situation studied, homeschooled students relate better to other children, of all ages, and to adults, than institutionalized students. This is just common sense.

Won't they miss out on the expertise and wisdom from the teachers?

There are teachers out there with expertise and wisdom, who can also teach :-). Assume your hypothetical school is full of them. And maybe, in the context of a class of 30 students or so, they would manage to impart some of that to my children.

So yes, they would miss what that particular teacher had to offer. However, if they were in the teacher's classroom, they would miss the wisdom and expertise of a much greater number of people who pass through their lives as homeschoolers.

So it's a tradeoff, as everything in life is. You can't have every experience, or learn from every person who might benefit you. I had some experiences with excellent teachers as a public school student. Was it worth the rest of it? No way.

In school, no matter how great a teacher is, you move on after a year; those relationships cannot last. In homeschooling, children can form lasting relationships with other adults, particularly their parents. My husband has been out of work for eight months. If the kids were in school, they would have missed eight months of every day contact with their father. Nothing is worth that trade-off!

66 posted on 02/26/2003 6:19:49 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I'm from Oklahoma, the center of the universe!")
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To: chance33_98
In order to make this show a success, they are going to have to make the main characters somewhat likeable. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. You know, when they came out with 'Family Ties', the producers were hoping to make a statement having the parents as liberals and a son who was conservative, and who, horrors upon horrors, actually liked Richard Nixon. A whole generation of kids grew up thinking being a conservative was not so bad. And, they have been voting to prove it.

Also, look what happened when they did Archie Bunker. He was supposed to be the epitome of a racist biggot. And yet, people liked the show and found him somewhat adorable.

So, if they want to do a sitcom and they want it to be a success, they are going to have to make it somewhat sympathetic to homeschoolers and funny. I wish them luck.

67 posted on 02/26/2003 6:42:08 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: 7 x 77
I can't recommend highly enough this brief essay by John Taylor Gatto, NY State Teacher of the Year in 1991, on the effects of schooling: The Six Lesson Schoolteacher. This critique corresponds to my judgement regarding the true nature of schooling and gets to the root of the questions that you've asked (below).

• Won't the home school children be stunted in their ability to relate to peers and other adults?

Quite the opposite. What meaningful interaction occurs with peers at school? During class time, it's supposed to be eyes front. Between classes kids talk about what they saw on TV last night or who's "dating" who. Same with the cafeteria. The environment is prison-like, especially if school authorities don't maintain discipline. Cliques and gangs arise in schools for the same reason they do in prison: protection. They represent islands of order (of a sort) in a sea of chaos.

Homeschooled children either play with other children or pursue interests that they share with other children. Social association is largely voluntary. Children tend to work together toward a common goal, even if it's something as mundane as playing house. Homeschooled children also have the freedom to choose to disassociate from other children. This is a very important life skill.

Additionally, homeschooled children learn to interact with adults outside of the order-giver/order-taker school norm. To homeschooled children, adults do not represent only authority figures who are to be avoided. Instead, children learn to judge adults just as they learn to judge other children, by what they say and do, and have the freedom to associate or disassociate with them as they see fit.

• Won't they miss out on the expertise and wisdom from the teachers? Afterall, the parts of the Body of Christ have their different gifts to offer.

What benefits exist are provided to a greater degree from interaction with adults in the outside world, in situations that are more "organic." Teachers are slaves to their job scope, their position of moral neutrality, and their (usually horrible) textbooks. It's very difficult for them to speak from the heart. Adults outside the school institution are not so restrained. Children who interact with adults in the non-school world get a truer picture of adults.

68 posted on 02/27/2003 5:14:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: chance33_98
BTTT
69 posted on 02/27/2003 5:22:43 AM PST by ZinGirl (whadduya mean 'more snow is on the way'? no no no no)
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To: chance33_98
Hey, it's on the WB! No one will see it, and it won't last 6 weeks.
70 posted on 02/27/2003 5:26:12 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Scotty Moore when we need him most?)
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To: Tax-chick
- but rather that we DO like our children, and like having them home with us, and like doing things with them ...

That sums it up nicely.

71 posted on 02/27/2003 5:26:29 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Eala
Oh, for my very own copy of the OED!!!!

The full size version is outrageously expensive, but there is an economy-size version in two volumes with microfilm-sized print. It comes with a magnifying glass, but if you're rather nearsighted you can read it unaided in a good light. Even after my LASIK surgery (which does affect your near vision) I can still read it in a good light.

It's reasonably priced, and takes up less space on the bookshelf, too.

72 posted on 02/27/2003 5:27:55 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . three cheers for James Murray (& even Dr. Minor!))
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