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CNBC: North Korea Urges Military and Citizens to "Be Ready For War"
CNBC | February 25, 2003

Posted on 02/25/2003 3:45:03 PM PST by Timesink

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To: The KG9 Kid
The North Koreans work as a client state of the Chinese. They do the things that the Chinese can't be caught doing, like supplying missiles to the Pakistanis in exchange for enriched uranium.

Gee, if you don't think the Chinese care about the ME, why, pray tell, have they invested in Iraqi oil fields? Why did they build the telecom network in Kabul under the Taliban? Why did they fund the Lippo group's investment in Bill Clinton's second campaign? (Oh, that one is to get missile MIRVing secrets from Clinton's friend, Loral).

The Chinese are afraid of how successfully and quickly we are moving in the ME. Their painstaking work of building a relationship with the Central Asian republics is falling apart. They want us to be distracted in NK.

We must stay focused.

61 posted on 02/25/2003 6:09:24 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: Jeff Head
Hey Jeff!, long time no see. I guess you have been busy! Thanks for the link.
62 posted on 02/25/2003 6:10:12 PM PST by budwiesest
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63 posted on 02/25/2003 6:10:26 PM PST by Bob J (Join the FR Network! Educate, Motivate, Activate!)
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To: budwiesest
Spent most of last year in Texas helping a brother with lymphoma who had been diagnosed as terminal. He pulled through and I ran his business for him while he was in the hospital.

This year have been starting up my own small computer service firm here in the Boise area and its been keeping me going 18 hrs a day.

At the same time, I am trying to get volume III out in March ... am very close.

Best Fregards.

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64 posted on 02/25/2003 6:15:12 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Yes, my brother.

The reason they are pushing it is to slow us down, not to start the confrontation. They have been known is miscalculate and get itchy trigger fingers, thought, like Wong Wei.

65 posted on 02/25/2003 6:17:00 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: chance33_98
They tell em to get some Duct Tape?

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

66 posted on 02/25/2003 6:19:41 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The French eat le Ca-Ca! So does Gephardt, Braun, Edwards, Sharpton, Kerry.............)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Apologies to those readers that are making a supplementary living off of Red Chinese scaremongering, but I don't see any evidence other than it's a load of BS at the moment.

That's a great line, KG9. The Chinese threat to Taiwan in 2003 is impressive, but only in the scale of the disaster it would be for the mainlanders. An amphibious assault spearheaded by a few hundred DF-15 missiles and People's boat parade would be an enourmous risk, even without factoring in a U.S. response. The difficulty of the task would be several times harder than the landing at Normandy, and the PRC is just not currently up to the task. At a bare minimum, it is safe to say that, while North Korea could make an attack coincide with our attack on Iraq, China could not.

(Yes, I know the history of the Korean war, but upon closer examination it is clear that these two situations don't have very much in common.)

67 posted on 02/25/2003 6:28:27 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: Timesink
Who are they going to attack? The south? The south has been making overtures to the north. The US troops in the DMZ? I think that would result in near instant obliteration of the north. Japan? Same scenario.
68 posted on 02/25/2003 6:30:12 PM PST by paul51
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To: Jeff Head
"... Well, having spent a lot of time over there helping US manufacturing companies set up shop ... I will say that there are many, many Taiwanese who do not go along with the thesis you project."

Alright, I read and understood your account.

There are also many, many mainland Chinese right here on US soil that don't go along with the thesis of your two (and forthcoming third) books.

I don't think I'm being a pollyanna about this, either. What amazes me most is that some Americans look at our impoverished enemies from around the world and insist that if they had gumption, hard work, and a little elbow grease they'd start accumulating property, wealth, and education and start being lots more agreeable people. After all, people that have something to lose -- like a good life and a family -- don't want to see harm come to it, correct?

On the other hand, when some of our counterparts that aren't genuine 'enemies' do accumulate property, wealth, education, modern lifestyles, and families -- there are some guys out there who will insist that it's all a dirty commie trick and they're just biding their time ...until ... until the iron-fisted General Chu can assemble his nuclear arsenal to wipe out 'Merica!

It's exasperating: If America didn't have enemies, we'd invent them. When America finally does have enemies, we can't identify them. We have real honest to God enemies in the Islamic world, and you're looking at the guys who are making a money for the first time ever by stocking Wal-Mart. Oil we cannot do without, 'Made in China' we can. They know that.

Sure, I bet the most pessimistic premise sells well with the Fred's M-14 Rifle Stocks book club. I subscribe to Shotgun News too, Jeff. I read his paranoiac insanity all the time: "You aim at the APC's vision ports while my 15-year old daughter throws the molotov at the hatch, and we'll shoot those blue helmets when they come out on fire just like we practiced'.

Sorry, what General Chu is really doing is using his retirement money from the People's Liberation Army reserve to start up his chain of Kentucky Fried Chicken franchises, or trading minerals to the Dutch. The Chinese people don't want General Chu's chicken, they want Colonel Sanders' with the big American logo on it. They can afford it too; Unlike the Arabs, the Chinese leaders don't hoard their wealth which makes their populace enraged -- usually at "America and it's puppetmasters, the Jews".

Not that I'm against you or your literary pursuits, Jeff. You know I've messaged you in agreement on several occasions on various issues. I'm just not ready to call you a prophet.

I do apologize if you think I've gone too far, but I'm just not ready to subscribe to the most pessimistic view possible.

69 posted on 02/25/2003 6:37:46 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Timesink

No comment necessary.

70 posted on 02/25/2003 6:44:46 PM PST by SENTINEL
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To: The KG9 Kid
Please don't even think of calling me a prophet ... I don't want anyone to consider that, tongue in cheek or no.

I do have concerns, very serious ones ... and they are based more on what I have seen over there then what I have read about it.

The people in power there are not our friends KG9 and they are decidedly not our counteprarts.

The peasents by the hundreds of millions are also certainly not our enemeis ... and I am praying they rise up. Before we stopped supporting the Republic of China ... and I am talking back in the 1940's ... there was a real chance that they would. They wanted a republic IMHO and they had one before the Japanese invasion. Mao and his revolution put an end to all of that in some very harsh times after WW II and MAo ultimately became one of the bloodiest butchers the world has known.

The people in power ... and its not just the really old guys either ... are trying to hold on to that power. They have demonstrated over and over to what lengths they are willing to go to do just that.

Anyhow, it is not my intent to get into a tinkling contest with you over this. I respect your opinion and want the same thing for the people of China. I am almost certain it will take a major regimn change for that to occur ... and I am almost equally certain that it will not come about any time soon if we continue to throw money, resource and most particularly our critical manufacturing capability at them for them to eat up. All that will do in my estimation is feed the ones in power and ensure their contiunued tyranny over the rest.

Those people in power put on a great show to impress CEO's and the politcally powerful ... I have seen it ... and I have also seen how the masses live.

In my estimation the best thing we could do is handle them the same way Reagan hanled the Soviets ... and I do not say that lightly.

But that is my opinion.

My books are unashamedly a message regarding what I believe it is that makes our nation strong, even in the very most severe of circumstances. I pray to God that those circumstances remain just what they are in my books ... fictional.

Fregards.

72 posted on 02/25/2003 7:10:15 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: SamAdams76
Oh I'm so afraid.
73 posted on 02/25/2003 7:13:57 PM PST by FightThePower!
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To: Steel Wolf
Would you give a short version of the Korean War.


I don't think the history of the Korean War has been
taught and would be interested in your take.
74 posted on 02/25/2003 7:24:22 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BabaOreally
Folks, it's so clear. They are going to use our exercises as a cover to launch a massive "defensive" move. The only question is will they wait for the balloon to go up in Bagdad.

That is a possibility. It's not one that will catch the ROK / US off guard, however. The timing of the launch of the ground war in Iraq is certainly dependent on more than just trying to win the French over.

Kim may not be able to pursue a war, if the U.S. is offering him food. The people in his regime want to survive more than anything, and they won't support a suicidal war over Uncle Sugar's free rice.

75 posted on 02/25/2003 7:24:30 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: Just mythoughts
Any short version won't do it justice, but here's the rough outline.

Korea had been occupied by the Japanese for nearly fifty years before WWII. After the war, the peninsula fell like Germany; half to the U.S., half to the Soviet Union. Both sides were armed and organized by their patrons, and set up as independent nations.

On 25 June 1950, at the prompting of the USSR, North Korea invaded the south, quickly overruning the defenders, and pushing them south. The initial American response, dubbed Task Force Smith, was plowed under by the North Koreans (I've seen their regimental colors hanging in the Military Museam in Beijing, a gift from Kim Il Sung to Mao)

They were pushed back to Pusan, where the line was held for some time. General McArthur's risky amphibious assault at Inchon, near Seoul, cut the North Korean invaders off from their supply lines, and they were decimated. They were in full retreat, and pushed back into North Korea, and then back to the Chinese border. At this time, there was intelligence mounting that showed the Chinese had mobilized to join the war. U.S. commanders refused to believe that the Chinese were preparing to enter the war until they had already crossed the Yalu river and began their assault.

Using suicidal human sea tactics (a favorite of Mao), they pushed the UN forces back to the 38th parallel, where a bloodily unobserved cease fire commenced. In 1953, a armistice was signed, and the DMZ was set.

Casualties were staggering. The US had some 50k dead and 100k wounded. The ROKs and North Koreans had several times that (don't remember off the top of my head). The PRC suffered almost 1 million casualties, and millions of civilians on both sides perished.

That's the down and dirty, but there is a lot that I left out. Anything in particular you wanted to know? About 20 percent of

76 posted on 02/25/2003 7:43:22 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: yonif
If we have to fight the tyrant of North Korea, I'm enlisting. My bretheren and the people of North Korea have suffered under this evil long enough, and I pray that God will protect them and let them see the light of freedom some day.

This is a cause worth fighting for.

78 posted on 02/25/2003 8:07:46 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ganeshpuri89
"Our victory will be decisive and our future will be even brighter,"

I wonder, brighter than what? I'm sure not brighter than their current "bright."

79 posted on 02/25/2003 8:08:52 PM PST by RecentConvert
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To: ganeshpuri89
North Korea has long called for a non-aggression pact with the United States as the "sole way" to resolve the nuclear crisis.

Poor crybabies are longing to feel important. Someone ought to tell Dear Lead that you don't cure your inferiority complex by mingling with the superior.

80 posted on 02/25/2003 8:15:19 PM PST by RecentConvert
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