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Band Members Subpoenaed to Testify in Nightclub Fire Probe
AP via FoxNews ^ | Feb 25, 2003 | AP

Posted on 02/25/2003 12:40:51 PM PST by FourtySeven

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Diddle E. Squat
I think we mostly agree. The argument was nevertheless over the attempts to whitewash (no pun intended) the band's responsibility, and kinda shift it onto the traditional Hollywood drama villain - the greedy and cheap businessman.
61 posted on 02/25/2003 7:42:43 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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To: Doc Savage
Well, they were fantastic when I was 16 LOL.
62 posted on 02/25/2003 8:10:29 PM PST by ibanezjem
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To: nutmeg
bump to read later
63 posted on 02/26/2003 12:47:56 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: Question_Assumptions
The sad things is that this is probably one of those situations where a lot of little mistakes added up into one big disaster. But people usually want a single group to blame so we'll see who is ultimately left holding the lawsuits.

Very true. Any one of the following might have diverted disaster:

* not setting off pyrotechnics when there's a low ceiling (fault: band)
* not having flammable materials so close to the stage (fault: club)
* not being approved to have 300+ people in a crowded SRO situation (fault: fire inspectors)
* having better exits that are more clearly marked (fault: club)
* not waiting until 11 p.m. to bring out the main event, thereby ensuring an audience that had probably been drinking and drugging excessively (fault: fans)

Just improve a few of these variables and there would have been either no fatalities or a mere few. But mix them all together and you have the recipe for catastrophe.

Since none of the parties have very deep pockets, I would hope the focus would be towards future prevention efforts rather than finding legal fault and trying to make one party the scapegoat for everything that happened that night.

64 posted on 02/26/2003 1:08:40 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: Howlin
What would you say if I told you I DID NOT see the Beatles?

They wanted $8.80 for tickets and that was just way too much money!
65 posted on 02/26/2003 1:38:46 PM PST by BRO68
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To: BRO68
They wanted $8.80 for tickets and that was just way too much money!

You know what, I was thinking the SAME thing when I posted that.......and remember that the Beatles weren't the only people appearing!

I fondly remember being old enough to intimidate the young girls into giving us their binoculars to use.

66 posted on 02/26/2003 1:40:18 PM PST by Howlin (Time to pull the trigger!)
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To: FourtySeven

Just FYI-I know this is an old thread, but this band sold millions of albums in the late 1980s and early 1990s. They were once quite popular. They're a bit old and washed-up now.

Remember the song "Once Bitten Twice Shy?" That was them. Well they redid it in 1989 but their remake was 100 times more well known than Ian Hunter's original version in the '70s.


67 posted on 10/28/2005 6:45:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine

They were good and likeable. Not world-class musicians, but decent.

Their signature tune, if you mean "Once Bitten Twice Shy" was in no way their best work. Look at other stuff-

Old Rose Motel
Rock Me
Face the Day
Shot in the Dark

All much better work.


68 posted on 10/28/2005 6:48:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine

The band was greatly overrated. They suck... hairspray, junkies and lot lizard chicks...

People died for stupidity. I will bet quite a few of them were so drunk they didn't know there was a fire until it was too late.


69 posted on 10/28/2005 6:53:51 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RockinRight

Their 3 minutes of fame was a video with a chick dressed up like a mermaid when King Diamond hosted Headbanger's Ball...


70 posted on 10/28/2005 7:12:01 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Great White started out a pretty good band (their first two albums were excellent), then went way downhill with their "commercialization" in the late 80s. In the 90s they again released a decent album (Psycho City) but then it was the end for them essentially.
71 posted on 10/28/2005 7:20:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: SirFishalot
Pyro is normally carried in a metal case inside of a larger ATA road case.

From my experience as a stage crew manager that case is locked and marked.At least my experience when the band Cinderella(sp) played at the local fair some years ago.All of us knew ahead of time,at least I was told there would be piro used.

You are right it can be very hectic with the change over between bands,especially if the first band has alot of stuff on stage.

72 posted on 10/28/2005 7:28:40 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: SirFishalot
I think they both share the blame. The person that decided to use it that night and lit it is the one that should go to jail in my opinion. According to Great White's lawyer, that would be their tour/road manager.

From my experience you are exactly right.They are usually the first of the bus or truck and they track down who's in charge,to check out the stage and to make sure the stage crew is there to help with the load out.Sometimes they can be very nice (mostly Country bands),and sometimes assholes (usually Rock bands).

By the way are you a promoter?

73 posted on 10/28/2005 7:45:22 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: RockinRight

Oh yeah, I remember them now. Goodness, how far they fell since '89!


74 posted on 10/28/2005 7:45:32 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Well I guess I shouldn't tell you about the mullet I once sported in middle school...(circa 1989)...


75 posted on 10/28/2005 8:33:08 AM PDT by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight

I had a Mohawk...


76 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:06 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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