To: Fred Mertz
Ah. Yes, the dangerous man who had a knife was it? while his hands were handcuffed behind his back?
Shot 11 times, I believe.
Yeah. Self-Defense. Right.
To: DAnconia55
Have you ever dealt with a drugged-up individual in handcuffs? I have... You would be amazed at what they can do, even when 'restrained'...
I say this not to defend the cops (because, quite frankly, most cops and I fail to get along - arrogant jerks that they tend to be) but to point out that just because an individual is handcuffed, doesn't mean they immediately become harmless - ESPECIALLY when drugs are involved...
5 posted on
02/25/2003 6:25:18 AM PST by
Chad Fairbanks
(There's no mushroom cloud with rock ’n roll. No skin things happening years later, at least I hope.)
To: DAnconia55
I've had people cuffed in back slip through the cuffs so they're in the front in a split second. I don't know much about this case as yet, but I highly recommend that anyone who thinks a knife or boxcutter is no match for an armed officer obtain and watch a copy of "Surviving Edged Weapons", distributed by Calibre Press.
Anyone who has seen and understood this tape will thereafter have a very healthy respect for being within 20-25' of an edged weapon. This is by no mean an OK to injure or shoot a person in cuffs, of course not, but they remain dangerous if they are merely secured with conventional cuffs and they have retained any weapon. Numerous officers have been killed by being complacent around cuffed persons, thinking they were secured.
18 posted on
02/25/2003 11:44:13 AM PST by
Mjaye
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