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....so I guess it's OK with you that 4000-6000 illegal trespassers are crossing over our borders every 24 hours?

By the BP's own accounts 1000 of them are OTM's or Other than Mexicans.

Just who's side are you on here? There is no "magic" way to close the borders, I agree. It will take a lot of hard work and planning, something it seems you have an aversion too.

It IS, however, totally realistic to seal off our borders between legal border crossings, to funnel more people towards the legal crossings, where they can be intercepted. As I type this the US is sealing off the borders between Pakistan and Trashcanistan, two dozen border stations, to the tune of $300,000 each. We just handed turkey a check for 15 Billion dollars. We have the money, we have the technology, we could have a dual use system where we station Service people who are training to use the Predator and other upgraded UAV's in border areas, but alas, we also have a president who would rather be Vincente' Foxs' butt buddy instead of looking out for the personal saftey of Americans who live in border states. You can candy coat it any way you want to. It is what it is.

Lackeys like yourself are selling this country short.

I also think that "secure the borders" mantra is no panacea.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to make them MORE secure, as in doing what is necessary to stop the flow of illegal immigrants AT THE BORDERS, don't let everyone in "legally" without proper checks (which Teddy Kennedy opposes), and have a system so we know whether "students" are actually attending a university and where they are, etc.

But some people think that just closing the borders and not letting anyone in will solve the terrorist problems and most of our other problems, which of course is not the case.

Even with the best feasible border security, a few people can get through, if they are very motivated, as the terrorists are. And of course there appear to be plenty of people in the US, who are actually citizens, who can and would commit terrorism. Just consider Johnny Walker and Jose Padilla, and I am sure there are many more.

I think we have a multi-dimensional problem, where secure borders is just one aspect, and pro-active defense, as in eliminate terrorists and regimes who would supply them with WMD, BEFORE they get here, is another, in fact, in my opinion the most effective part. We should do all the various things needed.

I think, the point was that liberals don't want to do any of the OTHER things necessary, such as pro-active defense, as in pre-emption, more law enforcement, etc., they just keep criticizing Bush, that he doesn't just close the borders.