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1 posted on 02/24/2003 11:56:40 AM PST by Pokey78
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Here's the story:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79450,00.html


Monday, February 24, 2003

WASHINGTON — Iraq could be planning a chemical or biological attack on American cities through the use of remote-controlled "drone" planes equipped with GPS tracking maps, according to U.S. intelligence.

The information about Iraq's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program has caused a "real concern" among defense personnel, senior U.S. officials tell Fox News. They're worried that these vehicles have already been, or could be, transported inside the United States to be used in an attack, although there is no proof that this has happened.

Secretary of State Colin Powell showed a picture of a small drone plane during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month.

"UAVs outfitted with spray tanks constitute an ideal method for launching a terrorist attack using biological weapons," Powell said during his speech. "Iraq could use these small UAVs, which have a wingspan of only a few meters, to deliver biological agents to its neighbors or, if transported, to other countries, including the United States."

Powell said there is "ample evidence" that Iraq has dedicated much time and effort to developing and testing spray devices that could be adapted for UAVs. "And of the little that Saddam Hussein told us about UAVs, he has not told the truth," Powell said.

In the arms declaration Iraq submitted to the U.N. Security Council in December, the country said its UAVs have a range of only 50 miles. But Powell said U.S. intelligence sources found that one of Iraq's newest UAVs went 310 miles nonstop on autopilot in a test run. That distance is over the 155 miles that the United Nations permits, and the test was left out of Iraq's arms declaration.

Officials tell Fox that there is solid intelligence that Iraq has tested many different types of sprayers on these drones to disperse chemical and biological weapons.

President Bush addressed the threat in October in Cincinnati, making his first big case outlining Iraq's defiance.

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical and biological weapons across broad areas," Bush said in preparation for a congressional vote authorizing the use of force against Iraq. "We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States."

The president noted, however, that sophisticated delivery systems aren't required for a chemical or biological attack. "All that might be required are a small container and one terrorist or Iraqi intelligence operative to deliver it," he said.

Even though it has been mentioned a few times by administration officials, the issue of UAVs and their capabilities has been largely overlooked.

But some experts say that even if the UAVs do get assembled for use in the United States, the chances that they could cause widespread damage are low.

"These technologies are not terribly well proven," F. Whitten Peters, a former Air Force Secretary, told Fox News, referring to vehicles that can be used to disperse harmful agents.

Peters said in order to go undetected in the air, the UAVs would have to be small -- and therefore would not be able to carry too much of a harmful substance, and they would have to fly over densely populated areas if they want to achieve maximum casualties.

But because many large metropolitan areas such as Washington have air traffic watchers keeping an eye out for any nearby planes that have not filed a flight plan, the UAVs likely would not succeed in a large-city attack.

It's the smaller cities and towns that would be more vulnerable.

"It's not clear air traffic would actually see this aircraft," Peters said, adding that if the vehicles flew low enough to evade radar detection, "they would be basically invisible."

As to what the government could do to protect Americans from any threat UAVs may pose, Peters said: "I don't think there's much to be done besides the steps we're already taking to deal with chemical and biological threats."

Fox News' Bret Baier and Liza Porteus contributed to this report.
180 posted on 02/24/2003 1:16:01 PM PST by Nexus
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186 posted on 02/24/2003 1:21:26 PM PST by Snowy (Dry clean only)
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If Iraq does not do something stupid with there weapons of mass destruction (use them) then the liberals will say "see they were no threat".
194 posted on 02/24/2003 1:25:14 PM PST by baylorbaylor
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I'm skeptical they would have the technological know-how to build such things. Sounds like more scare tactics to me. Let's see the evidence.
200 posted on 02/24/2003 1:31:12 PM PST by jaime1959
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LINKS OF INTEREST:

***FOX NEWS.com: "IRAQI DRONES MAY TARGET U.S. CITIES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WASHINGTON -- Iraq could be planning a chemical or biological attack on American cities through the use of remote-controlled "drone" planes equipped with GPS tracking maps, according to U.S. intelligence. The information about Iraq's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program has caused a "real concern" among defense personnel, senior U.S. officials tell Fox News. They're worried that these vehicles have already been, or could be, transported inside the United States to be used in an attack, although there is no proof that this has happened. Secretary of State Colin Powell showed a picture of a small drone plane during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month.") (February 24, 2003)

NEW IND PRESS.com - A South India News Site (PTI): "ISI TO REPLICATE 9-11 IN KASHMIR" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "NEW DELHI: In order to have a 'mini replica' of September 11 attacks in Jammu and Kashmir, Pakistan's ISI has directed militants, especially of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), to use toy planes to target Army posts and VVIPs. Quoting an interrogation report of a LeT militant arrested in the state, informed sources said that the ISI had handed over a "fleet" of four dozen such planes, capable of carrying 10-15 kg of RDX, to LeT for carrying out an attack on Army posts or helicopter gunships of the Indian Air Force.The sources said that two such planes were recovered recently from Rajouri district of Jammu region. The toy planes, which can be operated by remote control, take a set trajectory and hit a target within a range of 300 metres.The arrested militant said that the plane was displayed at a Lashkar congregation in Pakistan. The militant was unable to give any further information about the toy plane but told his interrogators that the plane had flown out of his sight during its trial, the sources said.The militant had said that the ISI wanted to repeat the September 11 bombing of the World Trade Centre towers in the US by carrying out similar attacks, though using these toy planes, the sources said. The arrested militant revealed that the ISI was also planning to destroy some of the forward Indian positions at the Line of Control and international border using these toy planes. The sources said that this way, the ISI could use the plane from across the border and try to hit a forward Indian post, though such a strike might lack precision, the sources said. The toy plane could be folded inside a small briefcase and smuggled into the Valley, the sources said and added that the two seized planes in Rajouri were meant for transporting to Jammu for carrying out attacks at important installations and VVIPs. The planes were being assembled in the Lashkar-dominated area of Muridkee in Pakistan, the sources said.") (February 3, 2003)

DEBKA.com - DEBKA FILE: "ARAFAT'S NEW TERROR WEAPON: EXPLODING TOY PLANES" (January 14, 2003)

NY POST.com: "IRAQ'S ROBO-THREAT" by Vincent Morris (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WASHINGTON - Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is experimenting with unmanned aerial drones to attack the United States or its allies with deadly chemical or biological weapons, Secretary of State Colin Powell charged yesterday. Powell said Saddam "has been working hard" at using drones to drop deadly toxins on people from far off.") (090902)*NOTE: The url for this news article has expired.

ANANOVA.com: "COLUMBIAN ARMY SEIZES TOY AIRPLANE 'BOMBERS'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Colombian troops have seized nine toy airplanes that rebels were planning to use to launch remote control attacks, the army says. The model airplanes were found during an early morning raid on two camps used by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC.") (082702)

stepping back in time...An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a HINDUSTAN TIMES Article: "PAKISTAN ISI MILITANTS PLAN TO USE EXPLOSIVE LADEN 'TOY PLANE' TO HIT VIPS" (November 4, 2001)

215 posted on 02/24/2003 2:03:38 PM PST by Cindy
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"...To Duck, or Ducktape,...Now,..That Is The Question.."

...(sorry Mr. Shakespeare for abusing your prose)...

Mustang sends w/Best FReegards... :-D
217 posted on 02/24/2003 2:10:05 PM PST by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: Pokey78
Kill the source of the drones.
219 posted on 02/24/2003 2:16:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Pokey78
This reads to me like Iraqi Psych Opps.
222 posted on 02/24/2003 2:18:59 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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but, but, Azziz when in Rome and blew off the Israeli journalist but then answered somewhat snappily the German journalist said that Iraq DOESN'T have the means to bomb anyone.
227 posted on 02/24/2003 2:46:28 PM PST by LilRhody
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bump
242 posted on 02/24/2003 5:49:41 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Pokey78; Alamo-Girl
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/1998/980330-gps.htm

March 30, 1998

VICE PRESIDENT GORE ANNOUNCES ENHANCEMENTS TO THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM THAT WILL BENEFIT CIVILIAN USERS WORLDWIDE


Message Creation Date was at 30-MAR-1998 11:14:00
      
THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Vice President
__________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release     Contact:
Monday, March 30, 1998     (202) 456-7035


VICE PRESIDENT GORE ANNOUNCES ENHANCEMENTS TO THE GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM 
THAT WILL BENEFIT CIVILIAN USERS WORLDWIDE

 Washington DC--Vice President Gore today announced that a second civilian 
signal will be provided by the U.S. Global Positioning System.

  &This new civilian signal will mean significant improvements in navigation, 
positioning and timing services to millions of users worldwide--from 
backpackers and fishermen to farmers, airline pilots, and scientists,8 the 
Vice President said.

 The addition of a second civil signal represents a strong commitment by the 
United States to civil GPS users worldwide and is a major step in the evolution 
of GPS as a global information utility.  Much like the Internet, GPS is 
becoming increasingly indispensable for navigation, positioning, and timing by 
users around the world.  Also like the Internet, GPS has become an engine of 
economic growth and efficiency as businesses and consumers continue to develop 
new and creative applications of this technology.

 The addition of a second frequency will greatly enhance the accuracy, 
reliability and robustness of civilian GPS receivers by enabling them to make 
more effective corrections for the distorting effects of the Earth,s 
atmosphere on the signals from space.  GPS has always provided signals on two 
frequencies for military users for this purpose.  Today,s announcement marks a 
new era in which civilians will have access to the same type of capability.

 &The decision announced today demonstrates that we can successfully balance 
the needs of civilian users with the demands of national security,8 Vice 
President Gore said.  &GPS civil signals are, and will continue to be, 
provided free of charge to consumers, businesses, and scientists around the 
world.  We will continue to do everything we can to protect these GPS signals 
and to promote GPS applications for commercial, public safety, and national 
security purposes.8

 The addition of a second civil signal has been recommended by a number of 
expert panels, the most recent of which was the White House Commission on 
Aviation Safety and Security, chaired by the Vice President.  Today,s 
announcement fulfills a pledge made last March by the Departments of Defense 
and Transportation to reach a decision on a second civil frequency within a 
year.  The Departments of Defense and Transportation co-chair an Interagency 
GPS Executive Board, created by President Clinton in 1996 to manage GPS and its 
U.S. government augmentations.

###

&This new civilian signal will mean significant improvements in navigation, 
positioning and timing services to millions of users worldwide--from 
backpackers and fishermen to farmers, airline pilots, and scientists,8 Vice 
President Gore said.

  The NAVSTAR Global Positioning System (GPS) is a constellation of 24 
satellites developed, launched, and maintained by the U.S. Air Force that 
provides positioning, timing, and navigation signals free-of-charge to both 
military and civilian users worldwide.

 A second civil frequency will allow receivers to measure the time of arrival 
for two signals that have passed through the Earth,s atmosphere and correct 
for the distortion introduced by passage from space to earth.

 An improved location calculation will allow safety-critical users requiring 
dynamic, reliable capability to be more reliant on the GPS signal, improve the 
overall accuracy of the system for the average user, and allow the 
high-accuracy users (surveying, geodesy, weather forecasters, etc.) to 
determine their data in a faster, more reliable manner.  In addition, the 
second civil signal will allow the safety-critical users to have a backup 
signal in the event of inadvertent disruption of the current civil signal.

 The Interagency GPS Executive Board (IGEB) has selected the 1227.6 MHZ band 
(currently known as the L2 signal) for the addition of new civil capability.  A 
third civil signal will also be added with a decision on the frequency to be 
made in August of this year.  The decision on which of these two new signals 
the Government will pursue to become the safety-of-life service signal will 
also be made in August.

 One of the key factors in deciding which frequency to pursue as the 
safety-of-life signal is a commitment by all members of the IGEB to have a 
safety-of-life service signal available by 2005.

 The new signals are intended to be added to the GPS Block IIF satellites.

 The new signals will be available to all civil users worldwide.  
Internationally, interest has been expressed via the International Civil 
Aviation Organization (ICAO) in the use of a second GPS civil signal in 
conjunction with the Japanese MSAS and the European EGNOS augmentation programs.

 Currently the GPS system is used by a wide range of users:  from cars and 
trucks on the nation,s highways to ships at sea and on inland waterways;  from 
civil aviation to satellites in space, from earthquake monitoring equipment to 
surveyors to backpackers;  new industries such as precision farming; and the 
electrical power companies and long-distance phone systems which derive timing 
and synchronization from the signals.

245 posted on 02/24/2003 7:33:45 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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Rumsfeld has got to be laughing his ass off over this one.
254 posted on 02/24/2003 11:29:59 PM PST by nunya bidness (And if you can find lower prices anywhere my name ain't Nathan Arizona!)
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What gets me is the first three words of this headline. "U.S Fears Iraq" That is the big part of the problem in my opinion. We as a country are supposed to believe that Iraq and Saddam Hussein are the epitome of evil in the world. Sorry gang, but this craphole of a country and their so called leader does not cause me to shudder with fear.
256 posted on 02/25/2003 5:08:11 AM PST by MJM59
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