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To: gaucho
I just bought an iMAC. I'm ready to commit suicide. There are SO MANY problems with the operating system, I don't know where to start. I'd give anything to have my Windows PC operational again.

Please do yourself a big favor and don't buy an iMAC with OS X. If you're used to a PC, you won't be able to make the transition. It's just too radical. It's a nightmare. I'm totally stressed out.

Want a list of the problems? Here are just a few:

You can't SEE anything. The print on the toolbars is microscopic. You can't change the size of the text on the toolbars. You're stuck with what's there. You can't enlarge the scrollbars.

There's also no inner stuff like on Windows. No seeing the C drive and all of its contents. Virtually everything on the computer is hidden. Inaccessible.

You can't delete anything. If you make a mistake when you first sign on as a user, then try to delete it, forget it. Your deleted folder stays there forever.

The stupid "dock". It pops up when you least expect it. If you have it hidden, it will still pop up unexpectedly if you accidently move the cursor over its hiding place. And you can't open Internet Explorer from the toolbar. You have to go to the dock.

You can't delete your cookies in a batch. You have to delete them manually one-by-one. I'm serious. What a pain.

The mouse it comes with doesn't have a right side or a left side; it's all one piece. So you can't right-click anything. This means you can't save images, or copy text, or do anything.

You can't keep the screen full-size. It cuts off an 1/8 of an inch on the right side, and on the bottom. You can resize it, but it will always revert back.

And again, everything is tiny tiny tiny. Microscopic.

The computer is just a big expensive dud. It does nothing that I'm used to. I'm already thinking about selling it, and I've only had it up a day or two.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the LOUD GONG that starts the log-in. No way of getting rid of that sound. Someone on the apple website asked about that, too, and there was no solution.

And, if you want to change fonts (the appearance of a page), it will take you a very long time because the box closes out after each test. You have to keep going up to the toolbar to reopen the box again.

There are many more problems. These are just a few.
41 posted on 02/24/2003 12:04:25 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Oh my, I would be tearing my hair out. I change fonts and screen size and tool bar type size, I delete cookies by batch. You can't cut and paste? Put that baby on Ebay, lol.
59 posted on 02/24/2003 7:11:33 AM PST by madfly
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I just bought an iMAC. I'm ready to commit suicide. There are SO MANY problems with the operating system, I don't know where to start. I'd give anything to have my Windows PC operational again.

Some of your complaints sound like problems. Some of them sound like, "This doesn't work like a PC does." Well, no. The Mac is a little different. And many Mac users have the same experience when using PCs. If you can't get used to it, then you should investigate a PC.

Please do yourself a big favor and don't buy an iMAC with OS X. If you're used to a PC, you won't be able to make the transition. It's just too radical. It's a nightmare. I'm totally stressed out.

Lots of people make the transition -- both ways. And to Linux, too. Being stressed out isn't going to help you. Reading some help files and manuals might.

You can't SEE anything. The print on the toolbars is microscopic. You can't change the size of the text on the toolbars. You're stuck with what's there. You can't enlarge the scrollbars.

If the screen, overall, is too small for your, try changing the monitor resolution. Let me know if you need help doing this. If you have an older CRT iMac, this shouldn't be a problem. If you have a newer flat-panel display iMac, the resolution change may not be as sharp.

If you need to change just the toolbar text, try looking under "System Preferences" under the "apple" menu (the menu on the far upper left). There should be ways to change the appearance, fonts, and other things.

There's also no inner stuff like on Windows. No seeing the C drive and all of its contents. Virtually everything on the computer is hidden. Inaccessible.

Not at all. How are you trying to access the contents? If you need to go up to the desktop when you open or save a file, slide the scroll bar on the bottom of the file list (the one that goes left and right) to the left and you will "move up" on the disk. Yes, some of the Unix-like part of the system are hidden. If you know how to use Unix-like systems, you can get to that. If you don't, then you shouldn't be messing with those files anyway.

You can't delete anything. If you make a mistake when you first sign on as a user, then try to delete it, forget it. Your deleted folder stays there forever.

I'm not sure what you are complaining about here.

The stupid "dock". It pops up when you least expect it. If you have it hidden, it will still pop up unexpectedly if you accidently move the cursor over its hiding place. And you can't open Internet Explorer from the toolbar. You have to go to the dock.

The dock's the doc. It isn't perfect but I find it about as useful as the Windows alternative. Personally, I leave mine there all the time, like I do in Windows (when the Windows task bar pops up, it has the same problem for me that the Mac has for you).

The second complaint is valid. Apple removed that functionality from the Mac OS between 9.2 and X. You can get two pieces of (fairly cheap) shareware that will (A) let you put applications under the Apple menu (like the Windows Start menu) and (B) give you an application list that will always appear in the upper right. Let me know if you are really interested. I think you can try both out to see if you like them.

You can't delete your cookies in a batch. You have to delete them manually one-by-one. I'm serious. What a pain.

How would you normally do this in Windows and what are you doing on the Mac?

The mouse it comes with doesn't have a right side or a left side; it's all one piece. So you can't right-click anything. This means you can't save images, or copy text, or do anything.

If you really want a two-button mouse, you can buy one. And the right button will magically do what you expect it to do in some programs. They cost less than $20. For historical reasons, the Mac has always had a one button mouse. If you don't want to spend more money, hold down the "control" (not the flower-like command) key while pressing the mouse button and you'll get the "right-click" menu that you are looking for.

You can't keep the screen full-size. It cuts off an 1/8 of an inch on the right side, and on the bottom. You can resize it, but it will always revert back.

I'm not sure exactly what you are complaining about here.

And again, everything is tiny tiny tiny. Microscopic.

You should be able to adjust this. Several ways.

The computer is just a big expensive dud. It does nothing that I'm used to. I'm already thinking about selling it, and I've only had it up a day or two.

If you wanted a PC, you probably did make a mistake. The Mac isn't a PC. PCs are often a bad experience for Mac users, too. It's all a matter of what you are used to. But just as Mac users can usually do OK on a PC, you should be able to do OK on a Mac once you get used to it. If you don't think you can get used to it, selling it is probably your best option. Oh, and I forgot to mention the LOUD GONG that starts the log-in. No way of getting rid of that sound. Someone on the apple website asked about that, too, and there was no solution.

Hmmm. Not sure why it's a problem. I can't say I've tried to change it but I can look into it. Frankly, I just don't turn my Mac off all that often so I don't have to deal with it very much.

And, if you want to change fonts (the appearance of a page), it will take you a very long time because the box closes out after each test. You have to keep going up to the toolbar to reopen the box again.

On a web page? How often do you change fonts?

There are many more problems. These are just a few.

If you were expecting a PC and really like PCs, I'm not sure why you bought a Mac. Yeah, they are different. But there are solutions for most of your other problems. You may also want to try to find a local Mac user to sit with you and talk to you unless you've already decided to sell it.

70 posted on 02/24/2003 1:32:13 PM PST by Question_Assumptions (``)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
There are SO MANY problems with the operating system.

No there aren't, you're just not used to it.

You can't SEE anything. The print on the toolbars is microscopic.

Not sure what you're talking about here, which toolbars? Interestingly, one of the most common complaints when OS X came out was that text was too big.

No seeing the C drive and all of its contents. Virtually everything on the computer is hidden. Inaccessible.

Not at all. The Finder should show you all the contents of your drives. Mac OS X is a Unix system and everything is accessible if you know where to look. Run the Terminal application in Applications/Utilities and you'll have a Unix shell (like a DOS command shell but much more powerful).

If you make a mistake when you first sign on as a user, then try to delete it, forget it. Your deleted folder stays there forever.

The only way this should happen is if you create a folder while logged in as one user and try to delete it as another user. This is a feature, not a bug, and Windows most likely does the same thing.

The stupid "dock". It pops up when you least expect it.

Having the Dock pop up is annoying, that's why most users don't have it hidden.

You can't delete your cookies in a batch. You have to delete them manually one-by-one.

That's a complaint regarding IE, not OS X itself. And you can delete all your cookies in IE, just select them all by clicking on the one at the top of the list and shift-clicking on the one at the bottom.

You may also want to look into other browsers. Chimera and Safari are much faster and have better interfaces.

The mouse it comes with doesn't have a right side or a left side; it's all one piece. So you can't right-click anything. This means you can't save images, or copy text, or do anything.

Of course you can, in many ways. You can get a context menu by control-clicking, and you can copy using the Edit menu or Command-C. And you can plug any USB mouse into your Mac and it will work immediately, with full multiple button and scroll wheel support.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the LOUD GONG that starts the log-in.

You mean when you turn it on? The sound level should be controlled by the system volume, although it shouldn't be an issue since there's very rarely a need to do a full shutdown when you can just put it to sleep instead.

And, if you want to change fonts (the appearance of a page), it will take you a very long time because the box closes out after each test.

In what application? Again this doesn't sound like an OS issue.

Mac OS X isn't Windows, there wouldn't be any point if it were. It will take some getting used to, but most of your problems are either trivial to work around or not problems at all. You may end up deciding you like Windows better, which is fine, but you should learn more about OS X before dismissing it.

73 posted on 02/24/2003 1:43:48 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
The mouse it comes with doesn't have a right side or a left side; it's all one piece. So you can't right-click anything.

That's never made sense to me. When the Mac was first announced, IIRC, Jobs mentioned a usability study Apple conducted that concluded the optimal number of buttons for a mouse was one. That's completely wrong. Right-click menus (and the wheel, as well) offer two decisive advantages over systems without them.

My mouse has five buttons plus a wheel. Buttons 4 and 5 move backward and forward between browser pages. It took me all of half an hour to get addicted to that. Now, when I browse on other machines, I reflexively squeeze the side of the mouse before realizing I have to go up and click the arrow.

98 posted on 02/24/2003 4:57:52 PM PST by cynwoody
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