[Destro]

Nope! I am saying people would have gotten what Jesus IS wrong if not for the Orthodox Fathers. That is the whole point of organized Orthodoxy - to stop strays-false messages.

[BibChr]

And there's the divide between "Orthodoxy" and Christianity. Two mutually-exclusive premises.

One one premise, you take God and His Word as your foundation and exhaustive touchstone. You apply the test of His Word to the "Orthodox" sect, and confess that it has failed miserably in many crucial and vital ways.

On another premise, the sect itself is your foundation. You judge all things by it. It tells you it's done a great job, and you have to bob your head like one of those back-window hula girls.

Christianity, "Orthodoxy." Two different species.

Dan