Posted on 02/22/2003 9:57:44 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
Yes, but this is a quote...from....somewhere....
BTW, it's is not a contraction.
Georgia education, huh?
Wish the man I saw interviewed on Fox News Channel was here so he could answer you.
You see....this man is a faithful muslim, immigrated to the United States.
He is also a survivor of the WTC.
But he wasn't on Fox News to talk about his survival. He was on Fox News to talk about his son.
His son is currently in Kuwait....with the United States Marine Corps.
His son has been a Marine for 18 years, so this isn't his first tour of duty in the Middle East.
This man's message was.....I am a patriotic American and I love my country. My family loves this country too. And we are proud to fight for and defend our country.
He wanted people like you to know that blind hatred is wrong, that it is no different than the blind hatred practiced by the radicals who wish to harm us. That there are MANY Muslims who are like him. What would you say to this man if he were standing right here? Would you tell him that his practicing of his religion makes him evil?
A faithful moslem will obey the Koran. The Koran very plainly, in several locations, says to destroy any who do not believe in the Koran/Islam. Therefore, a faithful moslem must kill the unbeliever.
This isn't the theory of relativity, here. It's a simple syllogism. There is a major premise, a minor premise, and the conclusion.
If a moslem isn't a terrorist, he's not a faithful moslem. If he is a faithful moslem, then he will kill the unbelievers. It's simple logic.
It is not cultural. It cannot be relegated to an historical context. It is not relative. It is absolute. And the moslems in the ME who are calling upon all moslems to violence are interpreting the Koran accurately.
That's why faithful moslems are a threat to civilization.
But, if a moslem isn't a threat, then he's not a faithful moslem, which means he's not really a moslem at all. Which means he's not part of the equation.
1. Define the religion according to your interpretation.
2. Decide that anyone who follows your interpretation is evil.
3. Any exceptions aren't really "real." because they aren't following your interpretation.
It's a mighty handy way to always be right.
I am not an expert in Islamic theology, but it seems to me there must be different interpretations, or there wouldn't be Shiites, Wahabis, and Sunnis. Therefore I must conclude that not all interpretations are the same. Likewise, although Turkey (our ALLY, in case you hadn't noticed) is Islamic, and yet the women wear western dress and drive automobiles and VOTE.
There is no one interpretation of Islam. The "kill the infidel" group is a sect, in the same way that certain extreme Christians are a sect, such as the snake handlers.
By the way, have you been here all this time? I've been out to dinner and back. Snowing like heck outside...bet we get 6 inches by morning.
Anyway, consider the following:
8:12-13 "I will indeed strike terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So smite on your enemy's necks and above these on their heads and strike off all their fingertips. This punishment is given them because they opposed Allah and his Messenger..
8:60 "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies)
9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah...
9:123 "Ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
These are but a few passages of the Koran that call their faithful to violence. We must note that none of these passages are to be relegated to any particular historical context. They are considered absolute and current.
Therefore, if a moslem is to be faithful to his faith, he must be faithful to the Koran. If he is not, then he is not a faithful moslem. He either is, or he isn't. There is no middle ground.
Your analogy of the snake handlers may be accurate, but not for the reason you imagine. These people are not Christian. They may call themselves Christian, they may go to a building called a "church" on Sunday, but they aren't Christian.
Mt. 15:9: In vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines, the commandments of men.
And, no, I only pop in periodically.
Yea, our ally, for how many billion dollars, U.S? Some ally.
If no one answers, however, I see that some of them high 5 each other and make a long thread bashing the President about whatever the issue du jour is.
It's hard to know what the correct reponse is.
And they do it so well, don't they?
Of course one can look at it from a positive viewpoint if one wishes by thinking, I will vote for the more palatable candidate of the two.
Either way, that is the alternative I and I am sure many other "constitutional conservatives" have viewed the last few elections.
You "handle" snakes don't you?
Instead of the lesser of two evils, I choose to look at it as the more palatable candidate. And given the evolution of my thinking about Democrats I can't imagine ever voting for them again. To vote for a third party candidate, I know can't even get 1% of the vote or to not vote at all, by my math gives the Democrats advantage. That will not do for me, so I will just sit back and try to be content in seeing they are not elected, not having much hope that our country will ever again return to the "constitutional republic" it once was.
In my middle years, I have found calmness to be a very useful quality.
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