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To: DestroyEraseImprove
BS. It was about the right to self-determination, which you're avoiding on purpose.

If you claim the right to self determination for Knin, you have to apply it to Kosova. And by those rules you boys LOST. Deal with it.

364 posted on 02/26/2003 5:17:51 AM PST by homeagain balkansvet ((<--- does not suffer fools gladly))
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"If you claim the right to self determination for Knin, you have to apply it to Kosova. And by those rules you boys LOST. Deal with it. "

Sorry, I don't know what you mean with the term "Kosova" - except if you mean ...

... "Gusii also called Kisii, or Kosova, a Bantu-speaking people who inhabit hills of western Kenya in an area between Lake Victoria and the Tanzanian border. The Gusii probably came to their present highlands from the Mount Elgon region some 500 years ago. The Gusii economy comprises a multiplicity of productive activities: they farm pyrethrum and tea as cash crops, as well as millet, corn (maize), cassava, sorghum,..."

Encyclopædia Britannica (<- click)

But if you mean the Serbian province, than call it by its internationally recognized name Kosovo or Kosovo Polje or like it was called for centuries (how long there is a USA?): Kosovo i Metohija.

But why you don't say any word about this Albanian self determination:

Self determination (<- click)

(And note, this is not the fate of Gypsies in Nazi times in Kosmet, this Romany final solution was accomplished in 1999 - what the Albaninan Ballisti und SS Skanderbeg Nazis not achieved in 1943 they achieved now)

So why are you (Muslim for sure!) so silent?

Karadjordje

374 posted on 02/26/2003 7:32:09 AM PST by Karadjordje
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To: homeagain balkansvet; NYC Republican
If you claim the right to self determination for Knin, you have to apply it to Kosova. And by those rules you boys LOST. Deal with it.

If it's the right of self-determination and if force alone is the only way to apply that right, you guys lost completely with no right to complain. Too bad, so sad.

Prior to 1991/92 the west, lead by the US and Germany, ecouraged and supported seperatist movements within the republics of the former Yugoslavia which lead to the envisaged results. The unconstitional and thus illegal declaration of idependence was quickly recognized by another illegal act: agression through recognition. The former Yugoslavia was 'no more'. Serbia and Montenegro proclaimed the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on the 27th April 1992. In 1998 the west was at it again. This time supporting the albanian muslim terrorists of the KLA on which behalf NATO waged an illegal war of aggression against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. In the end and after the terror bombing campaign the serbian province Kosovo was occupied by NATO and delivered on a silver plate to the KLA. Sure you can be proud of the US defeating the Serbian people. Who would have thought the US, the mightiest Superpower in human history together with 18 other NATO members could defeat the Serbs. Fortunately, the US had also the support of the Croats(NAZI-allies in WWII), the bosnian muslims(NAZI-allies in WWII) and the Albanians (surprise, surprise, also NAZI-allies in WWII). Was someone studying Hitler's invasion plans for Yugoslavia in the Pentagon? Sure they were.

Now you are suggesting to apply the same principles to Kosovo and Knin? Fine, lets get NATO to bomb Croatia, occupy Krajina and install the Serbian Liberation Army as government. Just a joke. With your comment, you have proven to have no clue at all about the constitutional and political organization of the former Yugoslavia and the complicated mechanisms that led to the civil war in 1991/92. First of all, the Serbs were a constituent nation and represented 10 out of 22 million people in the former Yugoslavia and cannot be compared to the albanians, who were one of many minority groups(Hungarians, Turks, Slowaks...) in the former Yugoslavia. Calling the Serbs within the former Yugoslavia minorities is simply wrong. Even if you cut the coherent serbian populated areas with Tito's borders in pieces(Krajina Serbs, Bosnian Serbs, Kosovo Serbs, Vojvodina Serbs, Sumadija Serbs, Sandzak Serbs, Belgrade Serbs, Serbian Serbs...) it is one historically coherent area that will seek to unite sooner or later. Hope someone will finally understand this inevitable fact in the Pentagon or State Departement or maybe even a retard like you. A large portion of the albanian population in the former Yugoslavia were illegal immigrants and therefore speaking of non-existent rights is absurd. You can't strip away citizen rights of illegal immigrants, because they are no citizens and have no such rights. The legal portion of the Albanian minority population in the former Yugoslavia enjoyed like the other minority groups more rights(native language TV, newspapers..) than any minority in any country in the world. Comparing the outbreak of hostilties provoked by the terrorist KLA in 1998 to the civil war in Bosnia and Croatia in 1991/92 is simply nonsense. Here we have fundamental principles breached, the constitution of the former Yugoslavia and the constituent status of the serbian nation degraded, their legitimate right to self-determination deprived and thus the War on the Serbs west of the Drina declared. Having in mind that the Serbian population was exposed to genocide during WWII in these areas by the same forces they had to fight again in 1991/92, it is no wonder the Serbs faught back ferociously. Not to forget five hundred years of muslim occupation, islamization, oppression and humilation.

Why is it that Bosnia and Croatia had the right to secession and Republika Srpska Krajina and Republika Srpska based on the same principles did not? These unanswered questions were the reason for the war to break out. Why was the right to self-determination denied to the Serbs before the start of the war? You can't violate internationally recognized borders of a souvereign state (former Yugoslavia) by recognizing the independence of secessionist republics and at the same time declaring the borders of these newly recognized states(Croatia&Bosnia) as untouchable. The west recognized Croatia's and Bosnia's independence from Yugoslavia. Applying the same logic, Serbia, Russia and the rest of the world could have recognized Republika Srpska Krajina and Republika Srpska after Croatia and Bosnia became recognized independent states by the international community. Why not? It was the 'west' who made the Helsinki Agreement null and void.

391 posted on 02/26/2003 11:49:23 AM PST by DestroyEraseImprove
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