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To: Stavka2
what was your higher command?

Like I said. JAG for MND(N) HQ on Eagle Base. I got to travel around a lot because SOMEONE had to go check out claims of maneuver damage before we paid. If some schmuck claimed we ran over his cornfield with a tank, I had to go out and check it out and measure the "tank tread" to see if it was one of ours or not before we told him to screw himself. That's why I got to travel so much. Think of it as a sort of insurance claims investigator. Not much fun, but at least I got the hell off Evil Base more often than most and got to meet people. And just as you did most of your interaction with Serbs out of Ugly, I did most of my interaction with Bosniacs, most of whom were pretty decent people (while, ahem, I did find that it's awful hard to outrude a Serb).

So don't think I'm some naive schmoe. I've been lied to by professionals from all THREE ethnic groups. My job was to sort truth from lies.

Mine was a year, and we didn't see all this evidence. Now, considering we were there just after the war, I'd think that there would be a lot more evidence...yet...where was it?

Oh, there sure was/is a LOT of evidence if you want to look for it. Don't trust the ICTY? Or the UN? There's the official Dutch government report, which the Dutch did NOT want to release because it would (and did) cost them their government. And the investigators, the forensics guys at the ICMP HQ in Tuzla, etc. all love to discuss their work, within reason. Just a matter of knowing who they are and making friends. There are also a hell of a lot of books out there now. (Though you really REALLY need a good BS-detector for the native stuff.)

As for access to the evidence.... I'm a lawyer of course, and I used to do a lot of crim work, so collecting info on the war and the crimes during the war was a particular interest of mine. It's what I did in my spare time. I just made a point of noting the stuff I heard and saw; after all, I needed some reason to justify why I had to spend x months of my life out there. And again, I'm not bad at picking out "no-$#!+-there-I-was" war story tellers vs. true atrocity survivors. You can't make it in the legal world if you can't tell when your client is a lying sack of $#!T.

For instance: A man describing thirty people being machine gunned while talking to you over a beer is probably lying. One who is on the verge of a nervous breakdown and who checks the windows and doors for eavesdroppers six times before he talks is probably not.

There's a ton of evidence out there, if you want to go look. On the other hand, no evidence will convince those who don't want to look.

248 posted on 02/24/2003 9:06:42 PM PST by homeagain balkansvet ((setting the record REALLY straight))
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To: homeagain balkansvet
First, I did most of my work with the Islamics not the Serbs, Serbs were once or twice a week. As for who's telling the truth, if a person is a "survivor" checking for evasdroppers, he's probably a paranoid. I met plenty of veterans who could talk to you all about mass death and dismemberment over a kidney pie. That doesn't mean crap. Stories are but a collaberation of hard evidence and other then that nothing but hear say...in most cases and uncollaberated testimony in most others.

Fact is, video of Jihadest mass murdering Serbs, and absolutely no move against said Jihadest. That is the reality of the UN/ICTY. 6,000+ Serbs were butchered by Oric and his gang in and around the area of Sebrenicia...no one talks about that. The biggest ethnic cleansing and mass murder was of Serbs by Croats, no one again talks about that...especially since the very nations that sponsor the ICTY trained and equiped the Croats for Operation Storm. That is the reality.

250 posted on 02/24/2003 9:55:20 PM PST by Stavka2 (Setting the record straight.)
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Maybe their lies were truth and your truth were lies?
251 posted on 02/24/2003 10:14:18 PM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: homeagain balkansvet
I cant take you serious as a JAG. Your choice of words of Junior High School talk.
252 posted on 02/24/2003 10:15:22 PM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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