Serbian Orthodox suffer since the United Nations took control of Kosovo

Evangelical Times ^ | 02/21/03 | Evangelical Times, UK

[Destro]

Serbian Orthodox suffer

At least 110 Serb Christian sites (churches, monasteries, graveyards etc.) have been damaged or destroyed in Kosovo since the United Nations took control in June 1999.

Most recently, a church building in the village of Ljubovo was completely destroyed by an explosion in the early hours of 17 November last.

A second explosion damaged another church in the town of Djurakovac. The bombings came on the eve of a visit to Kosovo by UN General Secretary Kofi Annan.

Church leaders and Orthodox worshippers also face violence and hostility from ethnic Albanians, especially where UN checkpoints in the vicinity of churches have been withdrawn in recent months.

Ethnic Albanian Muslim extremists regard churches as symbols of Serbian domination and see them as legitimate targets.

[homeagain balkansvet]

With a resume like yours, and you choose to name yourself after a GI joe toy? We are not impressed. But see my last post.

[Destro]

...and you should see praising emails I get on it from Freepers. I would have picked Captain America but it has alreeady been taken. What's the matter mommy did not let you play with boy's toys?

Speaking of you calling me boytoy--are you a product of Clinton's don't ask don't tell military? I heard stories about you JAGfags.

Want me to cut and paste your mocking comments on the Church burnings for you?

[homeagain balkansvet]

You are suffering from Serb-Think: a complete inability to see any point of view but your own, a complete inability to empathize, a complete inability to see anyone who disagrees with you as fully human, and a love of wild conspiracy theories that assign responsibility to anyone and everyone other than yourself and those you view as your playfellows. Stereotyping of Serbs? Yeah, but stereotypes come from somewhere.

Truth is, Destro, given the mindlessness of your posts, I don't believe you are non-Serb. Nosiree. Not for an instant. I think you're just pretending to be so as to increase your credibility. Well, it works, very well; your credibility is ten times what it would be if you didn't. Of course, ten times zero is still, well, zero.

[homeagain balkansvet]

I heard stories about you JAGfags.

Yeah, well, you clearly believe anything you're told.

[Destro]

Being called a Serb is not an insult but I am not one.

Tell FreeRepublic again how its a good thing that in Kosovo, Muslims are burning Churches under NATO's watch....

PS: Many of the pro-Serb Balkan watchers here on FreeRepublic are not Yugoslavians.

[homeagain balkansvet]

PS: Many of the pro-Serb Balkan watchers here on FreeRepublic are not Yugoslavians.

I'm aware of that. If you were paying attention I addressed that way at the beginning of this thread. Many of them are Pat Buchananites on acid, League-of-the-South neoconfederates, and others who engage in racist or treasonous fantasies while engaging in intellectual self-abuse. I have no sympathy for them either.

As for my "waah" statement, it was a crude way to say: One is often done unto as they do. I know of a church not five miles from the aforementioned Kravica built on the foundation of a mosque, at Konjevic Polje: within sight of the church the wall is spraypainted with SSJ ARKAN, a reference to the Serb war criminal (and his political party) so vile even Milosevic had to have him bumped off. I also know of the Serbs who dynamited the 500 year old Banja Luka Ferihidija mosque in the middle of the night and who buried the rocks somewhere so that artistic masterpiece can never be rebuilt. I also remember the riots a couple of years back when they tried to start the rebuilding process. When you advocate returning Muslim places of worship to their rightful owners, maybe you'll show yourself to be worthy of a chair at the grownups table.

In the mean time: zero sympathy for those Serbs who don't know how to Play Well With Others.

Besides, I seem to recall your implied threat to me earlier--what, after the Revolution you'll have me arrested? We do not find that amusing.

[homeagain balkansvet]

PS: Many of the pro-Serb Balkan watchers here on FreeRepublic are not Yugoslavians.

I should note for the record there are no longer any Yugoslavians of any sort. These days the FRY has been replaced by Serbia and Montenegro. The FRY is now on the ashheap of history. And unmourned. Unmourned.

[Destro]

I am not a Buchananite - never would vote for him but he is a great speaker and writer/analyst.

Pat was pro Croatian independence or did you forget? (Then again Pat always did have a soft spot for former Axis pact nations-but I still respect the man despite that).

Ok, I will modify my statement to you now that I forced you to address your "crude" statement....

Tell FreeRepublic again how you SYMPATHIZE with Muslims in Kosovo, that are burning Churches under NATO's watch....

--Will you be arrested? I don't know, did the FBI question you about Bosnia yet as they have others who were overseas at that time? I hope you did not contribute any money to any Bosnian charities in the last few years...have you?

[Destro]

I am typing to fellow Americans. If I don't say Yugoslavia they might not know where I am refering to.

I could care less about the region until the US got involved-now my tax dollars are at work and I am in a small way (or a big way since I pay too much taxes) responsible.

Tell FreeRepublic again how you SYMPATHIZE with Muslims in Kosovo, that are burning Churches under NATO's watch....

[OldCorps]

Memory Eternal to our Serbian Orthodox brothers and sisters departed this life whether by murder or by bombing by the evil Clinton government or by other causes.

May the blessed Serbian land once again be free of predators and may she forever stand fast in her Orthodox faith.

Holy new martyrs of Serbia pray unto God for us!

-an American Army officer

[NYC Republican]

Joe??? As in DioGuardi? You're too funny.

Look, calling me a church burner is asinine, and shows what a scum you are. As a Catholic,I find it reprehensible. As a human being, I find it so friggin insulting.

Just cause I don't share your view that all Muslims of the world deserve to die, doesn't mean that I want churches to be burned. That's such a sophmoric statement.

And yes, you are racist. Racism extends to color and religion, and clearly you fit the bill.

[NYC Republican]

There's no question here (#326) so I have no idea what you're talking about.

By the way, anyone who knows anything about the Balkans knows the Serbian wars had NOTHING to do with religion. The parties happened to be of different religions, but the Serbs fought the CATHOLIC Croats first, massacring over 10,000 of them.

It was about land, and a greater Serbia. You know it, admit it. Don't use religion as a wedge as it's a red herring. It's a bald face lie.

[Karadjordje]

homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"I'm aware of that. If you were paying attention I addressed that way at the beginning of this thread. Many of them are Pat Buchananites on acid, League-of-the-South neoconfederates, and others who engage in racist or treasonous fantasies while engaging in intellectual self-abuse. I have no sympathy for them either. As for my "waah" statement, it was a crude way to say: One is often done unto as they do. I know of a church not five miles from the aforementioned Kravica built on the foundation of a mosque, at Konjevic Polje: within sight of the church the wall is spraypainted with SSJ ARKAN, a reference to the Serb war criminal (and his political party) so vile even Milosevic had to have him bumped off. I also know of the Serbs who dynamited the 500 year old Banja Luka Ferihidija mosque in the middle of the night and who buried the rocks somewhere so that artistic masterpiece can never be rebuilt. I also remember the riots a couple of years back when they tried to start the rebuilding process. When you advocate returning Muslim places of worship to their rightful owners, maybe you'll show yourself to be worthy of a chair at the grownups table. In the mean time: zero sympathy for those Serbs who don't know how to Play Well With Others."

And again not a single word about the fate of Serbian Orthodox churches in Croatia. SPIRITUAL GENOCIDE A survey of destroyed, damaged and desecrated churches, monasteries and other church buildings during the war 1991-1995 (1997) (<- click)

"Various sources report as many as 100 Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries have been destroyed or desecrated in Kosovo and Metohija in the year since the war ended. Nearly 800 churches and monasteries were destroyed or damaged in Bosnia and Herzegovina between 1991 and 1995."
THE MORROCK NEWS SERVICE, "Kosovo: Land of the crucified?", June 6, 2000 (<- click)

Such an ignoring is just a SS fascist crime.

Italian and Albanian Fascist in Kosovo and Metohia in WW2

Albanian Nazi Parade in Serbian Kosovo and Methohia in WW2

The Albanian Fascist Ballisti Units in WW2 in Kosovo and Metohia

Members of the Albanian Nazi Fascist Ballisti exterminate Serbs (WW2) in Kosovo and Metohia

Murder of an Orthodox priest in Devic by a Member of the Albanian Nazi Fascist SS Skanderbeg Division (WW2)

Albanian Nazi Fascist SS Skanderbeg Division (WW2)

Albanian Nazi Fascist SS Skanderbeg Division (WW2)

A Serbian funeral ceremony in Kosovo and Metohia of an by Albanian Nazi Fascist murdered Serb

By Albanian Nazi Fascist burnt Serb houses in Kosovo and Metohia in WW2

Eyewitness to Genocide in Kosovo: Kosovo-Metohija and the Skenderbeg Division (<- click)

Albanian Skenderbeg SS Division (<- click)

Genocide in Kosovo: Skenderbeg Division (<- click)

The Serbs do not have millirads of $ of the Vatican or of rich Oil sheiks.

Karadjordje

[Karadjordje]

homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Oh...and...KOSOVO IS SERBIA! I suppose you want to take Jerusalem from the Jews!>
What an incredible lie. If Kosovo is Serbia then Alsace Lorraine is Germany and California is Mexico. "

Hey, SS Jihad, why don't you just ask a linguistic Prof, and not Haris Silajdzic or Hashim Thaci?

"Kosova" or "Kosovo"?

The name "Kosovo"
By: J. P. Maher Ph. D.
Professor Emeritus of Linguistics
Northeastern Illinois University Chicago
 
 

"Kosovo" is a Serbian place name, more fully "kosovo polje", meaning the 'field
(or plain) of blackbirds'. "Kosovo Polje" lies just outside the city of Prishtina.
Ornithology lesson: Among North Americans, Australians, and South Africans,
only ornithologists can identify the species in question. Kosovo's "black bird" is
no crow, nor raven, no starling nor grackle, but "turdus merula", European
cousin of the North American rusty-bellied thrush ("turdus migratorius"), which
Yanks call the "robin".

In Britain and Ireland "robin" is the name of another species, "erithacus rubecula".
(The "four and twenty 'blackbirds' baked in a pie", of the English rhyme, were
of the species "merula", in Serbian called "kos". From this term "kosovo" is the
derived possessive adjective.

Like America's harbinger of spring, the black bird called "kos" in Serbian
language sings sweetly in the springtime and early summer.
For North Americans the feel of the Serbo-Croatian place name "Kosovo" can
only be had from a free translation, "Field of Robins".
Albanians have borrowed the word from the Serbs, whose once overwhelming
majority was driven down, especially since the Congress of Berlin, by savage
aggression from Albanians incited then and in WW I by Austria-Hungary and
Germany, in World War II by Mussolini's puppet Albanians, and after WW II by
the discriminatory ethnic cleansing of the Stalinist dictator Josip Broz.

Native Indian place names in America have no meaning in English: e.g.
"Michigan" means nothing in English. In Ojibwa "mishshikamaa" means "it is a
big lake". Just so the place names of Ireland have transparent meaning in Gaelic
but are meaningless tags in the colonialist English, e.g. "Dublin" is Gaelic "dubh lin"
'black pool', and "Kildare" is "cil dara" 'church of the oak', Just so the names
of the Serbian province of Kosovo are clear Serbian formations, but have no
meaning in the Albanian language.

Proof of the Serbian origin of the name and the loanword status of the
immigrant Albanian term is that the word "kosovo" has a clear etymology to
anyone who knows a Slavic language, while Albanian "Kosova" is an opaque,
meaningless place name in the Albanian language.

Kosovo is Serbian.

Source: http://opinionleaders.htmlplanet.com/koskosova.html (<- click)

SS, you can try to exterminate Serbs from Kosovo and Metohia in a final solution for Serbs like Hitler in WW2, but you can not exterminate the truth.

Karadjordje

[Karadjordje]

NYC Republican wrote:
"It was about land, and a greater Serbia. You know it, admit it. Don't use religion as a wedge as it's a red herring. It's a bald face lie."

Did you know that there existed a Greater Albania. When? In WW2, created by Mr. Adolf Hitler. Read about that in your history books.

But before that, have you read the New York Times article about the Albanian demand for an ethnically clean Albanian republic in 1982? (<- click)

Here I show you an US military book from American scientist about the subject Yugoslavia and Kosovo - also from 1982!:

"Kosovo became an autonomous province [of Serbia] in 1968; Albanians had extensive control of the local political administration, and cultural and educational organizations [...] Pristina University, founded in 1970, was Yugoslavia's third largest university by 1980. Its enrollment expanded nearly seven times in the decade and was transformed from being a disproportionately Serb student body to one predominantly Albanian.

[...]

"Yugoslavia's largest national minority was its Albanian community, in 1981 numbering some 1.6 million, nearly 7 percent of the population. Most Albanians were concentrated in Kosovo where they constituted roughly 80 (eighty) percent of the population; another quarter million resided in neighboring Macedonia and Montenegro. All told, an estimated one-third to one-half of all Albanians lived in Yugoslavia - making them one of the largest potentially irredentist communities in the world

Nonetheless [despite total Albanian control of the province] Kosovo's per capita economic growth dropped further behind even the less developed regions [...] Urban growth far outstripped housing and services. The population explosion fed into rising under- and un- employment and rural overpopulation [...] More than half the population was under nineteen years of age [...] Employment opportunities for Albanian speakers were limited in Serbo-Croatian regions. [...]

Kosovo itself was significant in the historical and cultural heritage of both Serbs and Albanians. For Serbs the region was core of their medieval kingdom, the scene of their final defeat at the hands of the invading Turks in the 1389 Battle of Kosovo, and the location (at Pec) of the Serbian partriarchate's seat [...]

Nationalistic fervor along with the conflicting loyalties of Serbs, Montenegrins, and Albanians gave the regime considerable cause for disquiet. There was unrest among Albanians in 1968 and 1980 [...] Albanians wanted full status as a republic - a demand that would be difficult to negotiate with Serbs [...]. Moreover some demonstrators suggested that the proposed Kosovo republic ought to include Albanians in Macedonia and Montenegro too. Some extremists even voiced secessionist sentiment calling for a "greater Albania."

Rioters included not only students, but workers, peasants, and even Communist Party members [...] Authorities also feared ethnic backlash and rising violence as Serb and Montenegrin farmers fearful for their safety barricaded their villages against possible Albanian incursions."

YUGOSLAVIA, a country of study", Department of the Army (DA Pam 550-99), Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC, 1982, p.75-77.

Source: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/astronomical-natality.html (<- click)

Look in your dictionary about the word "irredentist"

How does this ethnically clean Greater Albania look like?

Click here to go to an Albanian site to see what Adolf Hitler promised the Albanian radicals in 1941.

Karadjordje

[Voronin]

Voronin, when you are defeated and have your back cornered, you start name calling.

Indeed. Our interloper has shot himself in both feet, but one has to respond, if, as he claims, he was 'asked to respond by other lurkers in private mails'. Semi-Pithy responses seem to be the only thing he knows...

VRN

[Voronin]

I've found it! An animated cartoon that represents the depth of knowledge that our interloper has so far bestowed upon us (www.sparklet.com/~royce/trams/KnowJackSchitt.swf).

VRN

[DestroyEraseImprove]

It was about land, and a greater Serbia. You know it, admit it. Don't use religion as a wedge as it's a red herring. It's a bald face lie.

BS. It was about the right to self-determination, which you're avoiding on purpose. Admit it.

[smokegenerator]

NYC Republican wrote:
but the Serbs fought the CATHOLIC Croats first, massacring over 10,000 of them

When did that happen? Can you give me the time frame with the year, month or at least the season (summer, spring, etc...)? --- I am a dummy, inform me of date/s.

[smokegenerator]

Why are you avoiding your hypocrosy? The US buried surrendering Iraqi soldiers while they were still alive. You and Hoplite are in the same room, right? How many desks over is he from you or you work differant shifts?