Bid to curb gun violence is worth a shot

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 2-19-03

[SJackson]

Hunters need to separate themselves from gun nuts

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[RISU]

Any "reasonable" approach to gun control will result in eventual "confiscation".

It is simply not in the best interst of any Government running a FIAT money system to have citizens in a position to "object" to the "system".

To get rid of the gun issue all we need to do is stop being a socialist state with a huge cap of government people who don't pay any taxes, and get some real money to use.

[FreeTally]

Limiting gun purchases to one a month (there is currently no limit) is a practical way to bring down the number of guns in the wrong hands. It permits authorities to go after straw purchasers, who buy them on behalf of felons and others who cannot pass background checks.

Um, if people are limited to one per month, then no one could be involved in "straw purchases" really. How would it help authorities go after such things? Idiot.

Exemptions could be allowed for anyone with a legitimate reason to exceed the limit.

And the person in charge of making this decison will decide that no one other than his buddies have a "legitimate reason".

A "cooling-off" period of 10 days before a buyer can take possession of a gun, up from three, is another measure worth supporting.

Or ten months, or ten years. Why not! Seriously, this is just a step to outlaw altogether(of course). No one is going to "cool down" more over 10 days than 3 days.

And in the absence of a system of federal licensing of gun dealers, Daley's proposal to have the state license them makes sense.

No federal license to be a gun dealer? Say what? This person is on crack.

[FreeTally]

Totally true, but most people wont understand what you say.

[Conspiracy Guy]

I am a hunter and a gun nut. More gun laws when existing ones aren't enforced is like more inspectors in Iraq. Excellent plan.

[Billthedrill]

Gov. Blagojevich unsuccessfully campaigned as a state legislator to raise it to $500 but abandoned that during his gubernatorial campaign.

Five bucks is a significant bite if you're trying to stretch a paycheck. 25 starts to limit the gun-owning demographic a bit; five hundred dollars is simply a blatant and transparent attempt to tax gun ownership out of existence and will function in the short term to make criminals out of people who can't come up with that kind of money to exercise a right they've always exercised for free. If this doesn't qualify as a "tax break for the wealthy" then I don't know what does.

Fortunately cooler heads prevailed and Illinois gun owners are safe from that sort of stealth prohibition forever...or at least until the next election.

But what does this "in the absence of federal licensing of gun dealers" mean? Has this newspaper never heard of a Federal Firearms License?

[from occupied ga]

No federal license to be a gun dealer? Say what?

Gun control fanatics do not base their positions on truth and logic, but rather emotions and lies. Their position is taken as a matter of faith; therefore any lie or distortion that promotes their position is OK because it helps to advance their final goal, - a country where only the police and military are armed.

This editorial is nothing but a tissue of lies and logical fallicies, but it makes the freedom haters feel good.

Oh and BTW Blowjerkovbitch was Sara Brady's point man in the US House.

[o_zarkman44]

Enforcing the existing gun laws is the answer, not throwing more money at the problem by raising fees. Law enforcement already gets huge amounts of money to aid in enforcing gun laws. Perhaps a more accurate accounting by law enforcement as to how much time and actual money are being spent enforcing current gun laws needs to be made to determine if the system is operating efficiently?

What good is a law on the books if it is not being enforced?
Why would a new law be any better? Because it gets more money for law enforcement agencys, not that it makes the system any more efficient towards reducing crime. Rewards should be for efficiency rather than failure.

[RISU]

Government has way too much power.

Got to get anti-gun nuts out of Congress and elect some Americans.

[coloradan]

And in the absence of a system of federal licensing of gun dealers, Daley's proposal to have the state license them makes sense.

You must remember, rule #1 of the gun grabbers is outright lies to generate support for their position. Not only isn't there any federal licensing program for gun dealers, but eeeeevil NRA types are giving lessons in schools how to be gang bangers, with the deceptively-named "Eddie Eagle" program, and 13 "kids" (0-25 yrs old) a day are killed by guns. Etc.

[from occupied ga]

Government has way too much power.

AMEN BROTHER!!

Got to get anti-gun nuts out of Congress and elect some Americans.

This is hard to do. Apparently the electorate in the cities keep electing large contingents of betwetting looters who promise them more pelf and more plunder from their hard working fellow citizens.

Since both the electorate who votes for them and the communists they elect know that stealing from one person and giving it to another is wrong, and that those who work for a living resent the robbers and parasites, they fear resistance. Their answer is to disarm the victims and leave only the robbers with the means to enforce their robbery.

[dfwgator]

Mayor Daley should be more concerned with stopping Night Clubs from burning down.

[conway]

You are a breath of fresh air. People need to understand the concept of the Bill of Rights. It a "no trespassing" sign for government. Politicians have no legal authority over these rights.

The second amendment says"the rigt of the peple to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

People: The masses of a commujnity as opposed to a specialized group. That is you and I the individual Citizen.

When a law is passed curtailing one of our rights we need to not only protest that law, but to openly disobey that law.

[FreeTally]

Gun control fanatics do not base their positions on truth and logic, but rather emotions and lies.

Of course, but this isn't like bogus statistics that would take some time(without available resources such as GOA) to find out are untrue. All people with any interest in guns knows there is federal licensing. This is a pretty bold lie.

[elbucko]

Enforcing the existing gun laws is the answer,..

Exactly, but this approach won't advance a political career and it will expose the fact that there are not enough police officers. And the police the cities have, are too busy engaged in activities of revenue enhancement for the city. Democrats, career political "persons" and gun controlers do not want the voting public to understand the above facts.

For a politician, getting a law passed in your name puts your name in the public record, forever, and is free campaigning. Whether it is enforced or not is irrelevant because the law will not have the intended effect, that is the reduction of criminal shootings.

The new law will, however, look good in a prominent place on a re-election brochure.

[angry beaver norbert]

What a crock. How about this: Murder is illegal. Arrest those who break this law and exercise death penalty.
I'd like to see these nuts try to limit Dan Rathers right to free speech to one occasion per month.
Cooling off period-ha! They're saying 'you may be too ticked off to buy a gun now, come back in a few days... oh, please! How about getting Ted Kennedy to dry out for ten days before operating a motor vehicle??
I think the real 'nuts' on this issue are the control freaks.
I have no respect for unconstitutional firearms regulations, however I do respect the Ten Commandments (which these liberal morons are so set to ban from public) which tells me not to go around killing people.
And let me assure the liberal element, I need no firearm to make vulture food of liberal/globalist/gun banners.

[elbucko]

I think the real 'nuts' on this issue [gun control] are the [gun] control freaks.

Exactly!

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The mayor has Jessie on the case...

[angry beaver norbert]

Absolutely! Our government is set up with a system of checks and balances, in which the armed citizen is meant as the ultimate chech of politicians gone stupid. That is what worries these idiots.