Christian Cleansing on American Campuses

politicallyright.com ^ | Feb, 2003

[Sloth]

Romans 10:16, II Thessalonians 1:8 and I Peter 4:17 all speak of the gospel as something to be obeyed, not merely agreed to.

[CommerceComet]

Having students get involved with campus ministries is good but getting them involved in a church is better. Churches in college towns generally cater to these students. If my children go away for college, I would rather have them under the guidance of a Christian family with a mature Christian head of household than their college-age peers. I've known a few churches that have formal or informal foster family programs.

In my experience, I have seen some good campus ministries who greatly help develop young men and women into mature Christians. I have also seen some campus ministries which are only good at fostering immaturity.

[CCWoody]

Ahhh, but notice from your Romans 10:16 cite what it means to obey the gospel. Paul, in establishing his point uses the following cite from Isaiah: "Lord, who has believed our report."

There are actually 2 great commands with regards to the gospel. And they are repent and believe. You can find this in Mark 1:14 among its many places.

Notice, also, how Isaiah presents the preaching of the gospel. It is no accident that the word report is used. In other words, unlike the Arminian preaching of the gospel, we are not supposed to beg and plead with people as if the Lord is somehow needy. We are to boldly proclaim the glad tiding that the kingdom of God is here as a witness, just as Matthew 24:14 says, and not worry about who will obey it and who will not.

And it is in this sense that we are told that God always leads us in triumph in Christ.

Woody.

[Sangamon Kid]

Our college age daughter is in full agreement with the decision we have made: i.e., that it is better to attend a secular college locally and live at home than it is to leave home to attend a Christian college.

[aardvark1]

Christians have no business sending their children to a government school. Yet we do so and brag about how our child got into such and such a school or college. However, if not for the Christian underpinnings of our society, there would be no public education. To prove this, look what has happened to schooling in this country as Christianity is excluded........

[jude24]

I'm actively involved in a church here at school, too. (It's not one that "caters to college student," actually, this semester, I'm the only college-age person there. That could get kinda lonely without a group like Crusade!)And, yes, I have been sort of "adopted" by one of the families there. But they couldn't fill the need for Christian fellowship I could get from Christian peers.

Neither Crusade nor IV seek to replace involvement in a local church; indeed, we try to encourage everyone to get involved.

At Crusade, our mission isn't the same as a church: ours is to help students, both lost and saved, become laborers for Christ. Theoretically, that's also the mission of a Christian college. Some Christian colleges do that well, and more power to them. But there are a lot more who do not, so that is why I suggest the approach I did.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b5f77fb6c86.htm

[Sangamon Kid]

Christians have no business sending their children to a government school.

That all depends on why you think the government schools are so terrible. Is it because we fear our children will be indoctrinated by the secular humanists? If so, then the need to homeschool is imperative for ALL Christian children. It is especially critical at the elementary age level, but in most cases becomes less and less critical the older the child becomes. If our decision to not send our child to a secular institution is based on the belief that our money shouldn't go to support an ungodly system, then we should likewise consider what other "ungodly systems" our money supports, not just our educational dollars.

Our daughter was homeschooled through high school. In our case, after we determined that pursuing a degree was acceptable, what was most important was that our daughter remained under our authority. Continuing to live at home while attending the local JC or university was far more important than where our money went.

I agree that Christian higher education is in poor condition, a situation in many respects due to our love affair with premillenial Rapture theology (another discussion for another day), but addressing that issue will take more than just you and me avoiding the current system. My hope is that by raising biblically sound children today, the next generation of Christians will wield significantly greater power in righting that problem. For my "pioneer" generation, we do what we can (including homeschooling, and supporting those few good colleges as we are financially able), choose our battles wisely, and hope that our children and grandchildren enter the promised land that we all envision.

[jude24]

I agree that Christian higher education is in poor condition, a situation in many respects due to our love affair with premillenial Rapture theology (another discussion for another day)

That's a non-sequitor.

The decline in Christian higher education, IMHO, started when Harvard went secular. That happened well before Scofield popularized the pre-trib rapture.

[Sangamon Kid]

The theology of a premillenial Rapture allows Christians to abdicate their responsibility to build and maintain Christian culture. It is an aggravating factor in the equation. What the root cause is I'll leave for you or others to decide.

[Sangamon Kid]

Pre-millenial should be Pre-trib...as you have stated. I stand corrected.

[Sangamon Kid]

Pre-millenial should be Pre-trib...as you have stated. I stand corrected.

I take that back. The two are not the same. Brain seizure on my end. Pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib...it's all the same premillenial stuff that is promulgated by the Scofield, LaHaye, Hal Lindsey (among others) Rapture Fever crowd.

[Anticommie]

From the list of Communist Goals:

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teacher's associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

29. Discredit the American Constitution.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of culture -- education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

Unfortunately for this country commies have succeeded on 17, 19, 30, 32 and are closing on 15 (they captured one major political party) and 29, (The Constitution Of The United States is not worth in many aspects the paper it is written on).

[victim soul]

Thanks for the reminder -- and bump!!!