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French aircraft carrier heads home
BBC News ^ | 02/17/2003

Posted on 02/17/2003 3:04:47 PM PST by dighton

The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is returning to France next week, say French officials, apparently scotching suggestions that it might be heading for the Gulf.

The vessel set sail on 4 February from its Mediterranean home port of Toulon, amid speculation that its final destination might be the Gulf.

Officially the vessel was heading for exercises off Crete, but some military analysts believed that it would subsequently join the build-up of military forces in the Gulf.

However, a senior French naval spokesman said on Monday there was “no question” of the Charles de Gaulle going to the Gulf.

“As planned, we will leave Crete again on 21 February and we should arrive back in Toulon on 25 February,” said Lieutenant Commander Bertrand Bonneau of the Charles de Gaulle battle group.

“There is no question at all of us going to the Gulf,” he told the French news agency AFP.

France has been leading European resistance to an early conflict with Iraq, but has been expected to eventually back a war if it believes all diplomatic routes have been exhausted.

Its confirmation that the Charles de Gaulle was returning home appeared to suggest that even in the medium future, it saw no place for conflict.

“I assumed the Charles de Gaulle would steam on to the Gulf,” said Ewan Southby-Tailyour, editor of Jane’s Amphibious and Special Forces.

“I think the statement about it returning home might be just “today’s statement”.

“It is almost certainly directed at the Americans, to try to add credence to their political statement in the UN Security Council.

“They are trying to show the US they really don’t believe we should be going to war yet.”

The French Government had not confirmed speculation that the Crete exercises would lead on to a Gulf deployment, but the Defence Ministry had stressed that the Charles de Gaulle was set for any mission.

“When a ship sails, it goes battle-ready - in terms of its crew, its weaponry and its aircraft, in times of peace or crisis,” said spokesman Christophe Prazuck at the time the vessel set sail.

“A ship like the Charles de Gaulle is not half-operation, or giving an illusion of being operational. It is totally operational.”

The Charles de Gaulle’s three weeks of exercises have included some with a US aircraft carrier, the Harry S Truman, deployed in the Mediterranean ahead of a possible war.

The exercises have taken place between Sicily and Crete, with the Charles de Gaulle based at Souda Bay on Crete, about 250 kilometres (150 miles) south of Athens.

Fighting power

If, as analysts suspect, the Charles de Gaulle eventually turns round once again and sails back towards the Gulf, it will take around two days’ extra sailing to get back to the eastern Mediterranean.

From there - or from closer to the Gulf - the French vessel could be used to deploy French aircraft to join any war on Iraq.

Around 40 aircraft are on board, including fighter jets and reconnaissance planes.

The nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle has been beset by technical problems over the years, but is a potent symbol of French military power.

It returned in July 2002 from a seven-month mission in the Indian Ocean as part of the war against terror.

Although France is still strongly backing extended weapons inspections, it sees war as a last resort, and is thought to fear being sidelined militarily if war does finally come.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; lebateaumaudit; shipmovement
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To: dighton
French aircraft carrier heads home.

Probably some guy in a rowboat started yelling at them and shaking a stick.

121 posted on 02/17/2003 7:44:46 PM PST by scott7278 (Peace had it's chance, now it's bombs away!)
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To: dighton

122 posted on 02/17/2003 7:54:42 PM PST by finnman69
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To: Focault's Pendulum
A more fundamental question is: Why does France even have an aircraft carrier?

They found it on E Bay, and thought it looked neat.

LOL!

123 posted on 02/17/2003 7:56:06 PM PST by scott7278 (Peace had it's chance, now it's bombs away!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
One would think that the Russian carrier would be pretty fast at launching aircraft, except there is only one spot to take off from. Even with having to hook up to the cat, U.S. boats have four catapults. You can't shoot all four simultaneously, but you can shoot pairs (one from the bow, one from the waist).
I do hope some the "crash and burn" videos make it out from China and India. It will be pretty tough to skip decades of carrier aviation and jump straight into today's jet aircraft.
124 posted on 02/17/2003 8:51:00 PM PST by USNBandit
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To: Cagey
Fantastic!

Here is a quality true photograph of Jacques Chirac, Le President de France, in all his anal glory!


125 posted on 02/17/2003 8:55:27 PM PST by jws3sticks ((Hillary can take a long walk on a short pier, too!))
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To: strela
The nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle has been beset by technical problems over the years, but is a potent symbol of French military power.

Yeah, originally constructed with a too-short flight deck and wobbly screws. It is an impotent POS.

126 posted on 02/17/2003 9:04:27 PM PST by AF68
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To: tophat9000
>>>....I hope Tony Blair does a Churchill and sinks the damm French Navy again..<<<

Good point; perhaps Blair and Bush already told Chirac that they would just be in the way and might get hurt.

Playing while the big boys are conducting business can be dangerous.

127 posted on 02/17/2003 9:13:59 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: MikeWUSAF
The nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle has been beset by technical problems over the years, but is a potent symbol of French military power."

It should be renamed the "Pepe Le Pew"

128 posted on 02/17/2003 10:13:47 PM PST by HP8753
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To: VRWC_minion
An attempt to go to sea in November ended characteristically in disaster somewhere in the Bermuda triangle

Me thinks maybe they sailed into the Bermuda Triangle hoping that the Pepe Le Pew would just "disappear"

129 posted on 02/17/2003 10:24:13 PM PST by HP8753
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To: COBOL2Java
The Charles de Gaulle like its namesake is a huge disapointment.
130 posted on 02/17/2003 10:26:48 PM PST by oyez (Is this a great country...........Or what?)
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To: aquitaine
A more fundamental question is: Why does France even have an aircraft carrier? 18 posted on 02/17/2003 3:14 PM PST by aquitaine [

That's what I was going to post. WHY do they need one for.

131 posted on 02/17/2003 10:31:13 PM PST by timestax
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To: martin_fierro; dighton
"The U.S. Navy has "vessels."
The French Navy has "weassels."

Lieutenant Chekov, is that you?
Kirk, out.

Achh, Captain ... my wee engines, they canna take no more!

132 posted on 02/18/2003 3:08:36 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: BlueLancer
As I've said before, French carriers will dominate the seas for hundreds of miles around their drydocks.
133 posted on 02/18/2003 3:27:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This Space Intentionally Blank)
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To: FreedomPoster; dighton; general_re
"French carriers will dominate the seas for hundreds of miles around their drydocks."

You forget, the French use the metric system.
That should be "hundreds of meters".

134 posted on 02/18/2003 3:30:03 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: dighton

135 posted on 02/18/2003 7:35:33 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: All
Thanks to all for the numerous good replies here.
136 posted on 02/18/2003 11:19:23 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
It was a great little thread. Very funny stuff here. I for one would like to read any new French carrier fun. Flag me if you get something.
137 posted on 02/18/2003 5:20:21 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Merde! And thees propellor was supposed to ave a one year guantee!

I heard that the Charles DeGaulle lost a prop. Do you know where I can read more on this?

138 posted on 09/07/2003 7:06:49 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Riley
I heard that the French carrier, the Charles DeGaulle lost a prop. Do you know where I can read more on this?
139 posted on 09/07/2003 7:07:41 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: dighton


"It's only a model."
140 posted on 09/07/2003 7:29:25 AM PDT by hemogoblin (Human shields aren't.)
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