1 posted on
02/17/2003 3:01:51 PM PST by
The Raven
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To: The Raven
German link is broke
2 posted on
02/17/2003 3:03:17 PM PST by
eabinga
To: The Raven
What is our German freepers name Michael??
3 posted on
02/17/2003 3:04:11 PM PST by
Dog
To: The Raven
Shame on Schroeder!!!! Aiding and abetting the enemy!!!! We will not forget this!!!!
5 posted on
02/17/2003 3:04:47 PM PST by
Defender2
(Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
To: The Raven
If true, and it probably is, this is dynamite.
Thank's for posting it.
To: The Raven; longjack
9 posted on
02/17/2003 3:05:51 PM PST by
LBGA
To: The Raven
Of course he'd cover up something like that up. He's in the business of continuing Hitler's work, which is the extermination of all Jews. Knowing that Saddam will eventually use these weapons on Israel, Schroeder can escape all blame when someone else does his dirty work for him.
10 posted on
02/17/2003 3:06:56 PM PST by
Mr. Mojo
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13 posted on
02/17/2003 3:08:28 PM PST by
eabinga
To: The Raven
Schroeder was one of Clinton's closest "Third Way" (i.e. global government) allies.
To: The Raven
There's an article that just came out called "Schroder is hiding the truth" in the WSJ. I don't have subscription.
18 posted on
02/17/2003 3:12:41 PM PST by
knak
To: The Raven
![](http://www.faz.net/imagecache/{0F09CB88-0BCF-4957-94E7-479EA5CB4675}picture.jpeg)
While we wait, also from the FAZ: "No war in Iraq!" [smallpox falling?]
To: The Raven
today's version simply reads: German government calls for vaccination program even though usa, britain know there's really no danger.
24 posted on
02/17/2003 3:18:40 PM PST by
inland
(news website)
To: Michael81Dus
(((PING)))
28 posted on
02/17/2003 3:24:02 PM PST by
areafiftyone
(The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
To: The Raven
Now we know Germany's angle. Now we need to find out what France and Belgium are into.
France probably doesn't want us to find out that they've been giving Iraq arms in violation of UN sanctions. Belgium probably doesn't want to upset their large raghead population. We'll find out what these countries are into and they need to be harshly punished.
To: The Raven
absolutely wonderfully excellent post. thanks. kinda stuff we need to know.
To: The Raven; Dog
33 posted on
02/17/2003 3:35:34 PM PST by
unspun
(Christ-informed, American constitutional republic = Yes. Libertarian & objectivist revisionism = No.)
To: The Raven
Remember, people in our intell community were saying they cant share everything with the public? Maybe this is one reason; Powell and the CIA have this info, but would be very uncomfortable letting Germany know we are spying on them. Esp when we are trying to get them to go along with us in the U.N. Just a theory.
41 posted on
02/17/2003 3:54:25 PM PST by
menotyu
(Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the conquering of it !)
To: The Raven
Here's a babelfish translation.
Fear of Scuds and assassins Israel, the United States, Great Britain, France wappnen themselves against smallpox notices joeb.
JERUSALEM, 17. February. Since end past yearly debates Israel a preventing inoculation against the smallpox. The nation is convinced of the fact that the Iraq Israel citizen with that can actually contaminate disappeared believed illness. Of the spreading of the exciter by Scud rockets or drones one does not only think.
The illness could be spread also over an assassin, is feared. Nevertheless the government could not struggle through itself to let the entire nation inoculate. It is however sufficiently vaccine for the emergency available, and it gives sufficient time with an attack, in order to after-inoculate, it is said.
So far nevertheless about 20,000 Israelis, above all the medical personnel were immunisiert. Yehuda Danon of the University of Tel Aviv, which advises the American military in this thing, reports on only one handful of Israeli patients, who are gotten sick after the inoculation at smallpox. Certainly each third is particularly tired, a third has head or pains of the joints.
Also speaker Ido Hadari in the Ministry of Health holds the dangers of an inoculation for small: One of the four victims was a child, who seized into the fresh inoculation wound of its father.
To: The Raven
Gerhard is gonna need a new Helmudt.
49 posted on
02/17/2003 4:25:07 PM PST by
Carry_Okie
(Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: The Raven
Deutschland, Deutschland ueber Alles ......
especially the Jews and Amerikans...ho ho ho....
To: The Raven
Schroeder really talked himself into a corner. He gambled during the elections, rallying the support of the anti-war sentiment within Germany, hoping the crisis won't escalate. Now, he's screwed. The situation has escalated. He got reelected on this platform and is on shaky ground at best (possible election fraud since he promised the Germans EVERYTHING they wanted to hear). Now he is confronted with a crisis in the Gulf where he said Germany would NOT contribute nor support. Yet Germany has UN and NATO commitments which even (supercede him) he cannot just blow off. Every move he makes will tighten the noose he himself created. Germany as a whole, put itself in a loose-loose situation through his mouth. If the US attacks oil prices will soar. Germany is to a MUCH greater extent dependant on OPEC oil. This will suppress their already lagging economy even more. Futhermore, an attack and removal of the current regime will also put all national agreements with Saddam on the table. Countries as Germany, who even brag about the fact that they have almost exclusive rights to Iraqs economy currently (since they refuse to participate in a coalition and are rewarded with economic access by Saddam) will not benefit after the military intervention. It will not be German companies receiving the contracts for drilling etc. He made this into an issue to get reelected, and it may just become one of his largest nightmares, even though there is a large PR campaign currently underway, to create the image of the "Solid guy who stood up against the big imperialistic, capitalistic, war mongering US and kept peace on earth (the typical BS)". The Iraq crisis, which diverts attention from an economy with 11.25% unemployed (5.8% US), .2% economic growth (2% US, 10 times more), 4% increase in national debt (in one year, US 2%) will back fire in the long run since he has opted for a short term personal over a long term national gain. Besides weakening the UN and NATO, who they were quick to use against Serbia, in a PREEMTIVE strike (Germany was not threatened), when 250,000 refugees knocked on their (Germanys) door. Besides potentially loosing the large-scale defense contracts (The US will NOT make itself codependent on a unreliable source). Besides loosing potential contracts after Saddam is gone. Besides having 125,000 soldiers, DOD civilians and others (Not low income) leave their economy and relocate in a more receptive economy to the east (they loose rent, restaurant, disco, car, construction, etc sales). What did he do? I would not get to worried. He is loosing political ground rapidly, since the people are realizing that he and is party and coalition partner (the Greens) flat out lied. Germany is and will continue to support since they really dont have an option. Where do you think the stuff going to Iraq is going through? Will Germany supply Patriots to Israel? Yes. Will Germany supply Patriots to Turkey? Yes. Will Germany vote against (UN/NATO) the US/GB and not contribute to a ground war? Yes. Will Germany be a BIG BIG economic looser after the deed is done? Yes. But you see, this has to happen at this point. He cannot come out and reverse his position anymore. He locked himself into a course of action before consulting his allies, before he had the facts. Now he will pay, since every time he sends Patriots anywhere, every plane that flies through there, makes him look a little more like the Bull Shit artist he really is. He must do what he is doing to stay in power. Dont see this as anti-American, although there is much of that in Germany. Rather see it as a last straw of credibility, a diversion from other issues for his own political gain necessitated out of the fact that his economy is failing, his energy policies are failing, the recycling programs are failing (the most ambitious in the world but not financially viable), not even the Kyoto protocol (for which they bash us for not signing) are they themselves upholding, increases in taxes, decreases in social services. All this during is tenure, yet he got reelected. He has remarkable similarities to someone we just got over.
Red6
57 posted on
02/17/2003 5:10:02 PM PST by
Red6
(this is a test)
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