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To: GOPcapitalist
They did save the Union.

They tore it down in an attempt to hold it together by exerting forces contrary to that union's nature and in violation of its founding principles.

"Whoever considers, in a combined and comprehensive view, the general texture of the constitution, will be satisfied that the people of the United States intended to form themselves into a nation for national purposes. They instituted, for such purposes, a national government complete in all its parts, with powers legislative, executive and judiciary, ad in all those powers extending over the whole nation. "

-- Supreme Court Justice James Wilson, 1793.

Was the first Congress exerting forces contrary to its nature when it passed the Militia Act, or the Judiciary Act?

Militia Act of 1792:

"And it be further enacted, That whenever the laws of the United States shall be opposed or the execution thereof obstructed, in any state, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the powers vested in the marshals by this act, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia of such state to suppress such combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed. And if the militia of a state, where such combinations may happen, shall refuse, or be insufficient to suppress the same, it shall be lawful for the President, if the legislatures of the United States be not in session, to call forth and employ such numbers of the militia of any other state or states most convenient thereto, as may be necessary, and the use of militia, so to be called forth, may be continued, if necessary, until the expiration of thirty days after the commencement of the ensuing session."

Section 13 of the Judiciary Act of 1789:

"And be it further enacted, That the Supreme Court shall have exclusive jurisdiction of all controversies of a civil nature, where a state is a party, except between a state and its citizens; and except also between a state and citizens of other states, or aliens, in which latter case it shall have original but not exclusive jurisdiction."

The Union of the framers was preserved by the loyal Union men in the ACW.

Walt

416 posted on 02/24/2003 11:24:45 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
In other words, a typical Wlat non-response followed by a flood of unrelated cut n' paste quotations that you percieve to lend complete support to your view but in reality barely even posess relevance to that same view. As I noted yesterday, Walt, every move you make on this forum is sadly predictable down to the finest detail.
417 posted on 02/24/2003 11:29:36 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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