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To: cherry
men are not women and women are not men...
we have differant gender roles....
why can't we just accept that and be happy for the differance...

Agreed. But who is the "we" here? Men were content to have the military (and the draft) be all-male. There were no men demanding that women be part of the military. We accepted that women were different and had no desire to have them serve in the military - which we all understood to be a "man's job."

But the women wouldn't have any of this. They called men like us sexist and worse. How dare we keep them from serving in the military alongside the men? They have fought tooth and nail for over 30 years now to integrate women into the military. They used their votes to support political candidates who would get this done. Well, women are now in the military and we men must learn to deal with it. Most of us are fine with it. Heck, if that's what they want, why they're citizens just like we are. Don't they have a right to play a role in our military, if that is what they want? And we have to assume that women as a whole want this because there were no women out there protesting against the women's liberation movement. Why they all seemed to be for it. So here we are today, with an integrated military in which females play a very valuable role.

Hey, it would have been fine by me to not have them in the military at all. But since they are in the military, I do expect them to be held to the same standards as the men. If men must register for the draft, I think the women must be compelled to register for the draft as well. If women have a problem with this, then why weren't they speaking up 30 years ago when the feminists were calling us sexist pigs for wanting to keep the military an all-male institution?

47 posted on 02/17/2003 10:52:29 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
"Hey, it would have been fine by me to not have them in the military at all. But since they are in the military, I do expect them to be held to the same standards as the men. If men must register for the draft, I think the women must be compelled to register for the draft as well. If women have a problem with this, then why weren't they speaking up 30 years ago when the feminists were calling us sexist pigs for wanting to keep the military an all-male institution?"

my mother is a WW2 veteran who worked state-side in hospital and TB sanitoriums....I am sure she would dissagree with you about the "30" years statement because women have been vital in support roles of the military for some time....I am sure my mom saw many deaths and injuries in her work that would rival some men's expieriences...

Men control and have controlled the military as well the government...why would they allow women in if they didn't think them capable....I think you have a problem with the leadership of MEN not women...men are the ones relaxing the rules...

but at the very foundation of this MEN vs WOMEN in the workforce which includes the military is this:..unequal opportunities for finacial benefit...that is why there has been this long drawn out batte between feminists and others...

just look at the compensation packages of fireman and police and throw in all of the mostly male dominated fields and compare them to any female dominated fields....not even close.......the disparity in pay, benefits, retirement etc is very out of line that frankly, I don't blame women for wanting to try male-oriented jobs such as the military...

maybe, just maybe, if women's work were more valued , more compensated, then there wouldn't be this crush to bash every bastion of maleness...such as the military and the police and the fire dept...which most of us do acknowledge has work that women can not physically do....

64 posted on 02/17/2003 12:10:57 PM PST by cherry
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