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To: c0rbin
Interesting question.

Conservatives are the ones with new ideas. There's been a juxtaposition such that many who were once thinking liberals are still thinking and have determined that what is considered "conservative" today, isn't stuck in the past, or old., but actually quite liberal. As I used to know it, anyway. Does that make any sense to you?

To confirm the thought, look at the liberal resistance to try anything new. Soc. security. Peace protests in light of an attack on US soil. Racism on the part of liberals.

64 posted on 02/17/2003 7:32:43 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: chiller
Conservatives are the ones with new ideas. There's been a juxtaposition such that many who were once thinking liberals are still thinking and have determined that what is considered "conservative" today, isn't stuck in the past, or old., but actually quite liberal. As I used to know it, anyway. Does that make any sense to you?

If I can jump in.....you make perfect sense. Traditional roles have 'flipped' - now conservatives are the ones that are looking for new ways to do things.

I think that this stems from two things. First, the liberals that were once considered 'on the fringe' are now in power and want to keep it that way. Second, the programs that liberals have put in place are beginning to fail and it will be left to conservatives to clean up their mess as usual.

100 posted on 02/17/2003 8:02:51 AM PST by wbill
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To: chiller; c0rbin
Conservatives are the ones with new ideas.
American conservatives conserve freedom

And freedom allows innovation--i.e., change. In America political conservatism enables economic dynamism. Socialism, OTOH, is the suppression of freedom in favor of equality--and equality suppresses innovation.


119 posted on 02/17/2003 8:19:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: chiller
"look at the liberal resistance to try anything new"

Thanks for replying.

This confuses me. Isn't the sentence above a contradiction (barring some new convention where Liberal = Democrat and Conservative = Republican)?

It seems to ma that someone who is willing to try something new is NOT conservative, yet you say a libral was not willing to try something new.

This makes sense in light of your first paragraph ("Conservatives are the ones..."). Now my question would be, why not address the issues and stances on those issues?

Every talk radio personality I hear rants about "liberals." Yet rarley do I hear an issue and the depths behind it from either camp.

I am concerned because it is easy to apply a label and dismiss someone outright: "Oh, she's just a libral [therefore every thing she says is tainted]."

That seems pretty closed-minded to me and not the road a "free thinker" should take.

179 posted on 02/17/2003 10:45:12 AM PST by c0rbin
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