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Do some research on wars of resistance against the U.S.-- that's all that matters. I support the RTKBA, but to suggest that freedom fighters for that cause would meet a fate other than complete destruction is silly. You have no idea what kind of sh!t the military would unleash in the event of an armed resistance of RTKBA'ers. Are you going to hold people hostage and become terrorists? You would meet a losing fate worse than the Jews against the Nazis. Tens of millions of Americans would be snitching on your every movement at every opportunity. The government would put million-dollar ransoms on your head. The treasury would be opened up, sparing no expense, in destroying your resistance movement. We have so many more options than any other government-- ever-- that it's laughable to compare a resistance movements' successes elsewhere with those in the U.S.

Panzers would be the least of your worries. And if you don't think the Pentagon has these anti-civil disobedience weapons ready to roll right this second and at a moment's notice, you're wrong.

And buying weapons from the North Koreans or paying off supply sergeants won't get you enough firepower to hang with the Pentagon.

Yeah, sure, right. They were so effective at catching that sniper in DC. If just a third of the gun owners stood up, the military and the government wouldn't have a clue what to do.

And that is not counting the fact that a percentage of the military would not fight against the civilian population.

You have no idea what kind of sh!t the military would unleash in the event of an armed resistance of RTKBA'ers. Are you going to hold people hostage and become terrorists?

It is clear that your view of a "militia uprising" consists of a small band of outlaws pursued by a vast Federal Government. That is a rather narrow view.

While the Revolutionary War was fought by only 15 percent of our citizens, 15 percent of today's our population would be 45 million.

In my vision of "a check on tyrannical government," I can't see going to ground unless it is as obvious as the nose on your face, and we would have those 45 million acting in concert. That would be the only cause serious enough to attempt to throw off the government.

You mean resistance fighters like the Vietnamese?

A war of resistance or a civil war in America would be a horror, buy why do you think that the whole military would be loyal to the oppressors? The Chinese call it the "mandate of Heaven", westerners call it legitimacy. Our government's legitimacy derives from the founding documents. If those are discarded by the national state, the support of the American people and much of the military would disolve like frost in the sunshine.

In any case, if you are right and there is no chance for a popular resistance to overthrow the Federal Government (if G_d forbid it ever came to that) then you have conceded the death of freedom. History demonstrates that governments ALWAYS go bad eventually. If ours does, will you just set there and obey? And if so, why would you think that THAT would make you safe?

Right now, Americans have a pretty good government. We have lots of options short of shooting politicians and government functionaries. But the knowledge that we can is part of their motivation to behave themselves.

"You have no idea what kind of sh!t the military would unleash in the event of an armed resistance of RTKBA'ers. "

Actually, yes, we do. We built the systems the military uses, and many of us are prior or active duty military. We also know that 200,000 military are no match for 15,000,000 deer rifles.

You obviously do not know the size, scope, or capabilities of your own govertnment, and, instead, fear them.

"Do some research on wars of resistance against the U.S.-- that's all that matters."

What matters is Freedom.

"...to suggest that freedom fighters for that cause would meet a fate other than complete destruction is silly. You have no idea what kind of sh!t the military would unleash in the event of an armed resistance of RTKBA'ers.

The military, why I thought their objective was to uphold and defend the Constitution? Maybe you're thinking of the dept. of homeland security. Have you noted any historical account of Americans failing to take action against a tyrant that threatens their Freedom. When faced with the threat of death and anihilation, did they surrender?

"Are you going to hold people hostage and become terrorists?

Surely you jest! Tyrants hold people hostage and terrorize. For the same reasons they are peaceable citizens now, gun owners will no more become tyrants then they would armed robbers. The terrorizing will be done by the forces of the majority that traded their Freedom for promises of security.

" You would meet a losing fate worse than the Jews against the Nazis.

Not at all. Some recognized the threat and fled. Others covered their eyes and went meekly along with the program, because resistance was futile they thought and they'd be imprisoned, or killed for resisting.

" Tens of millions of Americans would be snitching on your every movement at every opportunity.

So? There's 30% that know that Freedom, rights and the truth are worth protecting. They gave us our Freedom once and they will fight to preserve it against the forces of darkness and the face of death.

" The government would put million-dollar ransoms on your head."

What ransoms were placed on the founding fathers? How were they swayed by it?

"The treasury would be opened up, sparing no expense, in destroying your resistance movement."

Who would expect anything different? They loose quite a bit of income though. They'll have to issue more bonds.

" We have so many more options than any other government-- ever-- that it's laughable to compare a resistance movements' successes elsewhere with those in the U.S.

Surrender is not an option. Once you have done that, you not only have abandoned your Freedom, fellows and the United States, you've lost your soul. Majority rule w/o regard for Freedom and rights is simply the tyranny of the majority.

"Panzers, anti-civil disobedience weapons ready to roll right this second and at a moment's notice

Scary...MOLON LABE!" And buying weapons from the North Koreans or paying off supply sergeants won't get you enough firepower to hang with the Pentagon."

Those that lie with OPs dogs get fleas.