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To: Alamo-Girl
Classical coherence in the brain may well occur, but it does not provide an opening for non-computational activity, which I argue is a characteristic feature of consciousness.

OK, I'm going to ask again. Is there a structural difference between human neurons and those of other animals? I don't see how the axiomatic assertion that animals don't have consciousness implies that the structures enabling consciousness in humans somehow behave differently in animals.

937 posted on 02/25/2003 12:10:28 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
Thank you for your post!

As I understand Penrose, this is a matter of physics which superimposes the biological cell. When speaking of consciousness the two cannot be separated - it is like trying to take the chocolate out of chocolate milk.

More specifically, way back in 1989 Penrose supposed that a collapse of possible quantum states into a single state is due to quantum gravity because it influences the quantum realm acting on space/time. In 1994, Penrose considered the possible role of quantum superposition in synaptic plasticity. In other words, the collapse is a nonlocal process required for consciousness. Kalvarianen explains that, following Penrose and Hameroff, non-computatable self collapse of a quantum coherent wave function within the brain may fulfill the role of non-determinable free will.

940 posted on 02/25/2003 12:30:51 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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