[Arthur McGowan]

Of course Webster's definition in part is the same as the use of the term in philosophy. But Webster's doesn't specify the distinction between creation in the loose sense and creation ex nihilo.

Why be humble? This is the internet.

[unspun]

Of course Webster's definition in part is the same as the use of the term in philosophy. But Webster's doesn't specify the distinction between creation in the loose sense and creation ex nihilo.

Yes, and as Dire Straits sang, "money for nothin' and the chicks for free: jennyp's interesting article"

Why be humble? This is the internet.

And to be just a bit ostentatious, you do realize that even an ontological argument will get dismissed, if one cannot find common ground in epistemology. It's a tough chore, when folks like a certain loud minority in FR try to censor such things as revelation, inference, and even propositional reason.