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To: Alamo-Girl; beckett; cornelis; balrog666; Phaedrus
I believe the distinction between science and religion is entirely the result of will, i.e. a separation doesn't exist except for convenience.

I've come to the same conclusion, Alamo-Girl -- the "convenience" for any human mind that has a preternatural preoccupation with classifying the objects of human experience into "categories" -- that sorts everything into predetermined boxes, so to speak. That is to say, to maintain the mania of seeing Reality only in its parts, thus avoiding even trying to see things "whole", at their source and as they express or "evolve" as the reality in which we all live (and move and have our being).

Such an exercise truly does make man the measure of all things. Yet it seems quite plain to me that the human mind and spirit can reach beyond such limitations -- which IMHO is necessary to the discovery of Truth. For man does not have it in his power to "constitute" or "define" Reality in a purely objective sense. Reality -- Aletheia or experienced, lived truth -- is the matrix in which he lives, and of which he is a (perhaps unwilling) participant, and of which he could be only the most partial observer on his best day....

326 posted on 02/16/2003 8:21:59 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Thank you so very much for your analysis! I wholeheartedly agree.

That is to say, to maintain the mania of seeing Reality only in its parts, thus avoiding even trying to see things "whole", at their source and as they express or "evolve" as the reality in which we all live (and move and have our being).

It saddens me that we cannot keep even fundamental perspective in science. How rarely it is for someone speaking of the age of the universe, to actually finish the sentence, i.e. the universe is 15 billion years old from our space time coordinates. And yet that distinction makes all the difference - in science and philosophy.

We run into the same brick wall ("there be dragons there") whenever we discuss consciousness, Bell's inequalities, inception of the universe and life, and null.

Sure, there is a point beyond measure where the seeker has entered the metaphysical - but, Jeepers!, why stop at the 20 yard line?!

331 posted on 02/16/2003 8:53:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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