[LogicWings]

LW: "This real world, and the spiritual world, are, by definition, separate."

BY DEFINITION, by the definition of the religion you follow. Get that? The 'Supernatural' and the 'natural' are separate BY DEFINITION. "The Kingdom is not of this world," meaning not in reality. I could go on all day.

You probably weren't reading my posts in previous discussions where I said that there is no such separation. So you might be confused here, (might be? aren't I so very kind?)

So when I said, LW: "Never said it did."

I was speaking literally. The spiritual isn't off in the Supernatural somewhere, so to say,

"spiritual does not equal unreal"

is, in fact, correct. The spiritual is real because there is no 'Supernatural' for it have a distinct source from reality. It is YOUR DEFINITION that is in error.

Not that you will ever admit that.

[unspun]

{a} is a subset of the set {a + b}.

{a + b} cannot be said to be of {a}.

But {a + b} while not being *of* {a} may be in {a} just as it is in {b}, since {a} is a subset of {a + b}.

[unspun]

Besides, when Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world," by what things he also said, He indicated that "this world" will undergo transformation, in order to be of Him.