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To: bondserv
Permit me to step in here for a few comments:

In short, we believe the evidence already gathered absolutely points to a Creator. As in the above analogy, the atheist strains to take the available possibilities to support his position.

The trend is most definitely against you. Over the past few thousand years, the "evidence already gathered" started out being very sparse, and it left all kinds of unexplained phenomena -- disease, fertility, lightning, the tides, the motion of the planets, etc. As time goes by, and as curious people seek to understand nature, something funny happens. One by one, the ancient mysteries have yielded to rational investigation. The process isn't complete, and there are still unsolved problems, which may in due course yield to rational investigation.

But the intricacy of the design makes the atheists efforts countless. Therefore we are completely confident that any discoveries, by whoever feels compelled to do the research, can only further convince people that there is a God.

A few problems here. First, you assume that all curious people are athiests. As has been pointed out quite often, many scientists are Christians. Second, the "intricacy of the design" is not an insurmountable problem. Consider the staggering problems already solved -- the process that powers the sun, the distance to the stars, the motions of the planets, the composition of matter, etc. Admit it, those were difficult problems. There is absolutely no reason for you to declare that the problems which stump you today will be unsolvable for all time. Finally, if some problems turn out to be very difficult indeed, that still doesn't prove your case.

Only the truly stubborn have and will continue to strive and stretch the evidence to explain away the Creator.

You mean, only the curious will continue to try to understand nature. It has always been thus. Perhaps it's God's will.

1,433 posted on 03/06/2003 4:23:59 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: PatrickHenry
Hello Pat,

Good to here from you again.

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying that only atheists are doing the research, my point was it doesn't matter that atheists are doing some or most of the research. Fortunately science has a way of only satisfying itself with the truth.

The truth is something we are very interested in, and I would submit that we must be rigorously honest with the facts in order to be intellectually honest. We do not see any "problems" as you put it, we only seek to be enlightened by the truths of the research.

There is nothing to prove, only things to be discovered!

Hope you are well!
1,436 posted on 03/06/2003 6:03:42 PM PST by bondserv
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