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To: VadeRetro
VadeRetro  wrote:
Again I'm seeing a pattern in which inferences you don't like are "conjecture." Science does nothing but gather physical evidence and decide what's the best Occam's Razor interpretation of the overall picture. If you reserve the right up front to brand anything as "conjecture" that would otherwise force you to change your mind, you're doing something unrelated to science. (Probably, you're practicing the pursuit known as "religion.")

How quickly these discussions turn into personal attacks instead of fruitful debate. And your straw-man arguments are not convincing. If you would like to debate what I said instead of the "patterns" you detect in me, I'm all for it.


If the similarities aren't due to common ancestry, then we have found a really really big coincidence.

Or a design. Similarities prove nothing. Snow is white. Metal heated to a sufficient temperature is white. What does this tell us?


Life's incessant accumulation of information goes against the grain of the Universe.

'Kind of makes you wonder how the universe produced life.


 Whereas most natural processes are dissipating energy and destroying order, life is continually creating it (and using up solar energy in the process). However, the spontaneous emergence of complexity, and hence order, is now thought be a property of many natural processes. Such systems operate at the edge of chaos in that they lie, mathematically, between the readily predictable (ocean tides, phases of the Moon, compound interest) and unpredictable chaos (whitewater turbulence, next month's weather, stock market peaks and troughs).

Are you saying that information spontaneously generates? Which brings us back to my original question, how is the creation of information governed by natural laws.)
1,337 posted on 03/05/2003 9:32:35 AM PST by Rachumlakenschlaff
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To: Rachumlakenschlaff
Similarities prove nothing. Snow is white. Metal heated to a sufficient temperature is white. What does this tell us?

That this is going to be a very pointless exercise.

1,344 posted on 03/05/2003 11:06:49 AM PST by VadeRetro
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