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To: general_re
I keep trying to get the inferrers of design to put their inferences to the test, but so far I don't have much luck in getting anyone to play. I'm not sure why, since the claim that we can (reliably, of course) infer design by examining things may be the only testable hypothesis yet produced by ID theory.

The ID crowd, as you know, have absolutely no way to determine design. My choice of the human digestive system was not a random choice. The big claim of ID (or of creationism) is that man is intelligently designed (or specially created). But one glance at our intestines should be sufficient to send the advocates of such claims hiding in shame. But no, they go on with their scam. Their entire "science" consists of picking some examples of evolution that they hope will be difficult to explain, at least for a year or two, or just long enough to keep selling some more books, tapes, and comic books.

For the creationiods, their "research program" consises of snatching a few more bogus quotes out of context, asking a few more razzle-dazzle questions, demanding ever-more rigorous levels of proof from their opponents (while they themselves offer nothing but hot air). Another year, another five years, that's plenty of time for a carnival pitchman like Hovind or the others to keep traveling from town to town, selling snake oil to the ignorant, then dashing off before the tough questions appear, and start the whole shabby routine at the next town. Sickening, but at least they're in it for the easy money. What's the excuse for their followers?

1,105 posted on 02/28/2003 2:56:55 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: PatrickHenry
The ID crowd, as you know, have absolutely no way to determine design.

They claim otherwise, of course - even in the absence of historical knowledge about artifacts or structures. So it seems to me that the best way to sort out who's right and who's wrong is to see what happens when the rubber meets the road. Nobody's exactly pounding down my door to take me up on my offer, though. Maybe I should put up a cash prize or something, in the same spirit as Alamo-Girl's wager over the whole sordid Dini affair....

1,106 posted on 02/28/2003 3:10:15 AM PST by general_re (Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.)
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