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Scientists warn of 'global catastrophe' (Extensive fires burning underground )
Financial Times ^
| Saturday Feb 15 2003.
| Clive Cookson in Denver
Posted on 02/15/2003 10:16:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Our SUV's contribute very little to the world's Global Warming.
It is all of these underground coal fires that are the problem!
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They find Hell? :')
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:21:12 AM PST
by
CindyDawg
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
In China, the leading coal producing nation, underground fires are believed to consume up to 200m tonnes of coal per year, said Glenn Stracher of East Georgia College. That would release as much carbon dioxide per year as all the road vehicles in the US - equivalent to 2 to 3 per cent of carbon dioxide emissions from global fossil fuel burning.It will be interesting to see how the world community pins the blame for this on their favorite "whipping boy," the U.S.
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:24:39 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Going to the UN is like being locked in the Castle of Despair. Better to stay far away, Pilgrim.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
These nuts have to invent something new every week. They bore me.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Maybe one of these nuts just read about the city of Cienfuegos (A Hundred Fires) northwest of Havana, Cuba, and thought it must be the start of something.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It was 32 below again this morning. I wish someone would start a coal seam on fire here!
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:37:07 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Let the liberals whine -- it's what they do.)
To: TigersEye
It was 32 below again this morning.Damn that is cold, what was the wind chill?
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:39:29 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
To: syriacus
That would release as much carbon dioxide per year as all the road vehicles in the US - equivalent to 2 to 3 per cent of carbon dioxide emissions from global fossil fuel burning.
Which is not even near the total contribution of nature to greenhouse gas concentrations.
Mankind's impact is only 0.28% of Total Greenhouse effect
That includes the contribution of the coal mines in China.
" There is no dispute at all about the fact that even if punctiliously observed, (the Kyoto Protocol) would have an imperceptible effect on future temperatures -- one-twentieth of a degree by 2050. "
Dr. S. Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist
Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia,
and former director of the US Weather Satellite Service;
in a Sept. 10, 2001 Letter to Editor, Wall Street Journal
Change in climatic temperature is predominantly a consequence of Solar heating/cooling arising from variation of solar radiance, plus astronomical & geophysical events affecting surface & atmospheric albedo.
Ice Ages & Astronomical Causes
Brief Introduction to the History of Climate
by Richard A. Muller
Origin of the 100 kyr Glacial Cycle
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Or maybe they just read about Teirra del Fuego (land of Fire) which is at the tip of South America. I admit the photos of it look like hell, but it's a freezing hell...penguins and all.
To: TigersEye
It was 32 below again this morning. You really should find another place than the freezer in which to sleep ;-)
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:48:45 AM PST
by
varon
To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
http://www.mail-archive.com/fact@tlk-lists.com/msg00037.html
The oldest known continuously burning fire is an underground coal fire in New
South Wales, Australia. This fire apparently started over 2,000 years ago when
lightning struck a large coal seam at a point where it reached the surface of the
earth. Today the fire is more than 500 feet (152 meters) underground, and is still
slowly eating away at the coal.
http://www.penweb.org/issues/mining/tribrev/swfires.html
http://www.penweb.org/issues/mining/tribrev/centralia.html
Just a few cool links on the subject.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Of the 20,000 orangutans estimated to remain in the wild, 15,000 are in the Kalimantan region threatened by coal and forest fires." Oh My God! What am I going to do after I run out of orangutans?
To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I admit the photos of it look like hell, but it's a freezing hell...penguins and all. That's how Bill described sleeping with Hillary.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We had a peat bog behind the house where I grew up. It was on fire underground for a long time.
I wonder how common that might be.
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posted on
02/15/2003 10:57:29 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Going to the UN is like being locked in the Castle of Despair. Better to stay far away, Pilgrim.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Underground fires my butt! It's the DemonCrap Retreat where they plan their strategy.............HELL!
To: ancient_geezer
Thanks, you have more good stuff!
To: ancient_geezer
Hey there ancient geezer (no disrespect intended) do you have any links to Dr. Singer or other articles by him? I find his point of view to be refreshing.
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posted on
02/15/2003 11:13:56 AM PST
by
whipitgood
(...you can't deny the satisfied mind......)
To: Saturnalia
Thank you...Interesting...I believe I read about it a long time ago and forgot about it.
Thank you again for the information.
These people are still whackos.
To: uglybiker
LOL!!!
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