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To: hocndoc
Just like in Brave New World, isn't it? Aldous Huxley wrote in the 1930's I believe.

Perhaps they will poision the embyos with alcohol, then say the embryo is "hopelessly brain damaged."

Has anyone seen the ad for "Dreammakers"? They recruit women as "egg donors" presumably for artificial insemination to "help a couple who can't concieve". Nothing wrong with that, but I bet that "fetal farming" is the next step.

The infrastructure is already in place. I fear the Republican party won't want to get in a fight over this.



10 posted on 02/15/2003 10:14:12 AM PST by RepublicanRightOrWrong
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To: RepublicanRightOrWrong
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document020303c.asp

This article explains exactly the dangers of cloning for 'harvest.'

Worse, I can imagine the egg farms - where young women in 3rd world countries are penned to ensure their health and abstinence while they undergo hormonal treatments and surgical harvest of the resulting oocytes.

But, I also imagine that the first organs the researchers will work to produce will not be hearts, livers, nerve bundles or functioning Isles of Langerhans - to cure diabetes - but it will be ovarian tissue in order to produce marketable oocytes. What a boon for the manipulators of the human genome that step will be.
14 posted on 02/15/2003 10:25:24 AM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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To: RepublicanRightOrWrong; blam; Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Woahhs; Victoria Delsoul; William Wallace; ...
Has anyone seen the ad for "Dreammakers"? They recruit women as "egg donors" presumably for artificial insemination to "help a couple who can't concieve". Nothing wrong with that, but I bet that "fetal farming" is the next step. Oh, there was/is a great deal wrong with such manipulation of embryonic individual human life, but the public was not privy to the truths the scientists wishing to do the science held axiomatic to their manipulations ... embryologists hold as fundamental truth that individual human life begins with conception. The debates back when in vitro fert was arising on the bio-med scene pointed to the horrific reality we now face, but those debates were extremely one-sided, touting the benefits so loudly that the features--the 'how is this done'--were squelched; the American citizenry were not told the truths the scientists based their exploitations upon. The public was carefully fed degrees of information, degrees of truth, thus We the People accepted degrees of exploitation. In a conspiracy?... Yes and no. We must realize and admit that there were scientists back then who had no qualms with creating and discarding embryonic human individuals, and their values guided the careful manipulation of public understanding, causing the people to tacitly accept the values of the scientists without weighing those values against our founding values ... our tacit accpetance led to the values of the scientists becoming the expressed values of this nation! Will we also allow cannibalism to be the expressed value of this nation?

The same agenda driven framework that brought lazy acceptance for careless exploitation of embryos for in vitro fertilization is happening now regarding embryonic stem cell and cloning exploitations, with powerful politicians (like Orrin Hatch and New Jersey state leaders) aiding this manipulation. The withholding of truth, deeper truth regarding these procedures, is decidedly manipulative and IS designed to 'prepare the confused atmosphere' in which the debates occur.

Our tacit agreement for this 'benefits-outweigh-the-features' is being exploited, in order to arrange public acceptance of cannibalism in the name of 'higher purpose' for individual human lives deemed 'of less worth' since they are merely embryonic individual humans.

Unless media venues willing to air the facts regarding nascent individual human life are found (and I have been frantically searching for doors that will open, with little success so far), to get the truth out there prior to 'demand for the benefits' driving the debates to ignore the 'features', this nation will embrace cannibalism as enlightened policy for medical advances.

In Europe, the citizens have already been manipulated to focus on benefits and ignore features, ignore the truth of 'how these marvels' are accomplished; in Europe, the citizens have already lent their tacit acceptance to this cannibalism, without actually ever facing the stark truth, due in strong measure to calculated, selective dissemination of information by the scientists and industries planning to profit from the exploitations, from the cannibalization of individual human life.

37 posted on 02/16/2003 12:06:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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