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Teen shot by DEA agents in case of mistaken identity
Austin-American Statesman ^ | Monday, February 10, 2003 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 02/13/2003 3:43:58 PM PST by IMHO

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To: narby
From the Admin Mod Lecture Series:

To: Psalm 73

WOD = War On Drugs or Weary Of Drugs depending on your situation. Someone posts an article about drugs. Then someone praises the authorities about an arrest. Then the Libertarian Church Ladies(LCL) appear and attack that person as a communist, burying them under a hail of purse strikes. Then the Goofs appear, demanding more drug laws as a way to prod the LCL's to watch them catch fire and swing harder.

See Civil War threads for another example.


39 posted on 02/13/2003 8:41 AM CST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)

21 posted on 02/13/2003 4:33:39 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: babaloo999
And after a while, things threaten to turn ugly.
22 posted on 02/13/2003 4:35:24 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: IMHO
Just another bit of unavoidable collateral damage in the glorious war on some drugs. Her parents can rest easy knowing that her injury may have helped raise the cost of drug abuse by some significant fraction of a penny per dose. Maybe
23 posted on 02/13/2003 4:40:05 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: IMHO
This girl was shot in the BACK OF HER HEAD...
24 posted on 02/13/2003 4:54:54 PM PST by Gary Seven
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To: dd5339
JBT ping
25 posted on 02/13/2003 5:02:13 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Shoot 'em if they stand, cut 'em if they run!)
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To: babaloo999
the war on drugs is lost and just another disgusting example of a govt that won't do the right thing and that is end it NOW!
26 posted on 02/13/2003 5:04:14 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: narby
They've even got both political parties to agree on the WOD.

The Left loves the WOD. It makes the Right complicit in their abuse of the Constitution.

27 posted on 02/13/2003 5:06:57 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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slammed into their vehicle, then shifted into reverse and rammed the DEA vehicle behind her.

If she used a car to slam the police vehicle, then used the car to slam the vehicle again, this is using a deadly weapon. The cops are justified in firing to stop this girl from killing police officers and other innocent bystanders.

28 posted on 02/13/2003 5:10:57 PM PST by GOPyouth
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To: Gary Seven
This girl was shot in the BACK OF HER HEAD...

This does not matter. She was using a vehicle in a deadly manner, and was backing up ramming into police vehicles. Even if she was fleeing the police can use deadly force if she possessed an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or to the public. As mentioned before, she was using a vehicle to ram into police vehicles. If a cop was in front of that car he would have been hit with a substantial chance of great bodily injury or death.

29 posted on 02/13/2003 5:18:36 PM PST by GOPyouth
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To: GOPyouth
Right. Leaving your home peacefully one Sunday night when you're suddenly boxed in by two unmarked cars.

They may be DEA clowns who have got the wrong address, or they may be predators acting like cops to get their victims to submit. Guess wrong and a real cop will be putting tape around the scene and outlining your body in the morning.

30 posted on 02/13/2003 7:09:38 PM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: Oztrich Boy
If I read the article correctly it stated that the cops have their vests on with "POLICE" across it. It also stated that they informed the girl that they were police.
31 posted on 02/13/2003 7:18:01 PM PST by GOPyouth
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To: Oztrich Boy
or they may be predators acting like cops to get their victims to submit

I meant to put this on my previous post, but under this theory you are giving a person the green-light to kill any cop in uniform and say afterwards that they thought it was a thug dressed like a cop. That doesn't fly.

32 posted on 02/13/2003 7:20:20 PM PST by GOPyouth
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On one of the pulled threads, the reporter brought out that whether or not the police were wearing vests is in dispute. One witness claims to have witnessed the shooting, and she insists the cops put on their vests after the shooting. Another witness is insisting that the cops were wearing their vests before they tried to flag the girl down. In absence of a camcorder, there's no way to determine who's telling the truth.
33 posted on 02/13/2003 8:19:25 PM PST by kaylar
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To: GOPyouth
This does not matter. She was using a vehicle in a deadly manner, and was backing up ramming into police vehicles.

This is correct if you believe the police version of events. I don't.

34 posted on 02/13/2003 8:25:30 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: IMHO

100 druggies dying of overdoses because the DEA failed to arrest their pushers would be a far lesser tragedy!

35 posted on 02/13/2003 8:51:11 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: lodwick
So leave the country.
36 posted on 02/13/2003 8:58:46 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: kaylar
In absence of a camcorder, there's no way to determine who's telling the truth.

I didn't see the other article, but it will be interesting to see if they had the vests on. If they were about to bust somebody I would think they would have the vests on, but thanks for pointing that out.

One might say, "how would a 14 year old girl know these guys were cops?"... Well, that takes you back to the issue of why a 14 year old girl was getting in a car to drive?

37 posted on 02/14/2003 12:06:35 AM PST by GOPyouth
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To: Fred Mertz
This is correct if you believe the police version of events. I don't.

From the quote of mine you used, are you saying you don't believe that she rammed the cars? I'm sure there is visual evidence that the cars were hit.

38 posted on 02/14/2003 12:08:22 AM PST by GOPyouth
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To: IMHO
heres another version that may clear up some of the questions

SAN ANTONIO -- A teenage girl, shot and killed by federal drug agents, was a victim of excessive force from law officers who were investigating her father, relatives and friends say.

Ashley Villarreal, 14, died on Tuesday evening after family members requested that she be taken off life support at Wilford Hall Medical Center.

A friend challenged Drug Enforcement Administration officials' account of how agents on Sunday had shot the daughter of Joey Angel Villarreal, a three-time convicted drug offender who turned himself in and was charged with cocaine trafficking a day after the shooting.

Ashley Villarreal had been hospitalized in critical condition since being shot once in the back of the head.

One of the agents at a drug stakeout in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles were watching a house on the city's west side where they believed a suspect was hiding when they saw a man get into the passenger side of a car, San Antonio police Sgt. Gabe Trevino said.

"A girl got into the driver's side of the vehicle, and when they started leaving without the headlights on, and at a high rate of speed, the agents felt certain that this was their suspect and he was trying to escape," Trevino said after the shooting.

When agents boxed the car in and attempted to arrest the man, they said the girl who was driving the car continued toward them and slammed into their vehicle, then shifted into reverse and rammed the DEA vehicle behind her. Agents fired at least four times, and the girl was struck in the head.

Trevino said the man was not the drug suspect agents were seeking, but he was booked into jail on a charge of public intoxication.

Daniel Robles, a family friend and housemate who was with the teenager during the stakeout, said the unmarked vehicles that emerged moments after the girl pulled out of the driveway appeared to be pursuing her.

"It makes me really angry," Robles told the San Antonio Express-News earlier Tuesday. "This girl's dying and there are these reports that she threatened them."

Investigators from the DEA arrived Tuesday afternoon to begin reviewing the death. San Antonio police officers continued their investigation, questioning the shooting victim's grandmother.

Robles said the agents opened fire immediately after the crash and didn't identify themselves until afterward.

"The first shot was fired and Ashley didn't say a word," he said. "She didn't scream or anything and I knew she was hit with the first shot."

Robles said the girl had not tried to back up unless, somehow in the collision, her automatic transmission was knocked into reverse. He said there was no way for the car to have endangered the agents.

"How could they feel threatened when we were jammed in between (their vehicles) like a sandwich?" he said.

Law officers declined to respond to Robles' version or to discuss details of the case Tuesday, citing the pending investigation.

Robles said that after the gunfire, the agents pulled him out through the passenger side and handcuffed him. Then they reached in and lay Ashley on the grassy curb.

"They knew. I could see it. They had made a big mistake," Robles said.

and it appears in this article that they were not wearing their id vests it say sthey were in plainclothes and unmarked cars

39 posted on 02/18/2003 11:11:12 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison.")
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To: GOPyouth
IMO it's time to start making DEA agents pay for this kind of crap, on a really personal level.

L

40 posted on 02/18/2003 11:20:04 PM PST by Lurker (If I wanted your opinion, I'd beat it out of you.)
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