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Sen. Hatch Explodes at Dems Over Filibuster
NewsMax.com ^ | 2/12/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 02/13/2003 11:51:59 AM PST by kattracks

Last night, Sen. Orrin Hatch, with over a quarter-century experience on the Senate Judiciary Committee, ripped into the Democrats for filibustering to block a vote on President Bush's judicial nominee to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals in D.C., Miguel Estrada.

First, Hatch fired this salvo at Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, who accused President Bush of acting like a child on a playground: "I have been listening to this day after day after day. It is clear this is a game. It is a bad game. If they don't like the answers Mr. Estrada has given, vote against him. That is the remedy here. Don't filibuster. Vote against him. Talk against him, like we have had plenty of. Then you have an absolute right to vote against him if you want to."

He also said that blocking Estrada's nomination smacked of racism. Hatch snapped, "It is hypocritical. It is wrong. It is unfair. It is establishing a precedent that could hurt this country immeasurably. ... To do it against the first Hispanic nominated to the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia is particularly reprehensible, especially since he has every qualification a person needs to fulfill this responsibility. How far do we go with these ridiculous arguments, these unfair arguments, these discriminatory and prejudicial arguments, against a person who has every qualification to be on this court?"

Where the Democratic petition to the solicitor general is concerned, the senator from Utah accused the Democrats of stalling the nomination with frivolous paperwork. (The Democrats were arguing that Estrada had not answered their questions at the Democrat-controlled hearing, so they now need his confidential papers from his time at the solicitor general's office to find out what his opinions are on various subjects.)

Hatch remarked caustically: "Some of the arguments we have had around here are ridiculous. ... I have seen some unfair things here from time to time ... but I have never seen anything more unfair than what is happening here, with senators hiding behind this, I think, phony request for documents. They know they should not have a right to ... documents of recommendations of employees in the solicitor general's office concerning appeals ... and briefs. This is one of the phoniest excuses I have ever heard. Keep in mind, four of their former solicitors general, Democrat solicitors general, are on Miguel Estrada's side. And three of them reviewed every one of those documents. That is not good enough for them??

Hatch ripped the request for Estrada's papers further, accusing the Democrats of having prejudicial double standards: "This is one of the worst arguments I have ever heard on the floor of the Senate. And it is all done for political purposes," he said, because Estrada is a Republican, "which is very tough for them [the Democrats] to take."

He added, "There is nothing more than prejudice going on here; nothing more than unfairness going on here; nothing more than a double standard going on here; nothing more than trying to trip up the president of the United States and make his life even more miserable than it is every day with North Korea, with Iraq, with all the other problems we have in this world."

He did not stop there: "What gets me is we are in the middle of a filibuster of a federal judge, when the Constitution says we should give advice and consent, not advice and obstruction, not advice and a filibuster, not advice and unfairness.

"I have to admit there were some on our side who treated President Clinton in a shabby fashion. [But] I will tell you one thing: We never, ever filibustered a Clinton nominee, not once."

Hatch even pleaded with his compatriots on the other side of the aisle: "I have to say I care a great deal for all of my colleagues in this body. These are 100 of the greatest people on Earth. I care for my colleagues on the Democratic side. But where are they? Why aren't they telling us why? Why don't they give us a reason that is a good reason for being against Miguel Estrada, with all of the qualifications he has? Why couldn't they treat us the way they wanted us to treat their circuit court nominees, which I made sure we treated right? Why can't they be decent to this Hispanic nominee, the first ever nominated to the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, one of the most important courts?"

The Judiciary Committee chairman then floated these questions, which are the subject of many talk shows around the country: "Why is it that senators from the Democrat side get on the floor and act as if, because a person is conservative, that person is not going to do what is right under the law; that person is not going to make sure the law is fulfilled; that person is not going to make sure the principle of stare decisis or prior precedent is followed? Why is it they think only liberal ideas are any good?"

Indeed, why?

In summation, he had this to say to his colleagues: "I have been on the Judiciary Committee ... 27 years now. There are very few who you would rate at the level with Miguel Estrada. Every Hispanic in this country ought to be proud of it. I am calling on every Hispanic in the country, whether Democrat, Independent, Republican, whether you are liberal, moderate or conservative, you better start calling the Democrats and let them know this is not fair, this is not right. It is abysmal. Some would say abominable."

Indeed, it is.


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To: OldFriend
I thought the most sickening attack was Ted the Swimmer attacking the mrality of Clarence Thomas.

But then the Kennedys never had much of a sense of perspecitve, after all, they ARE American aristocracy
(HA!!).
61 posted on 02/13/2003 1:45:26 PM PST by ZULU (You)
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To: kattracks
Chuckie Schumerde, Tom Daschole, Diane Feinschwein, Barbara Boxer Shorts, Teddy 'Booze' Kennedy, Mary 'Hypocrite' Landrieu, Patti 'Brainless' Murray, Robert 'Ku Klux Klan' Byrd, Hitlery Clinton, and all the rest of the Demwits in the Senate are a bunch of racists.
62 posted on 02/13/2003 1:48:17 PM PST by punster
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To: kattracks
""I have to say I care a great deal for all of my colleagues in this body. These are 100 of the greatest people on Earth. I care for my colleagues on the Democratic side. But where are they? Why aren't they telling us why? Why don't they give us a reason that is a good reason for being against Miguel Estrada, with all of the qualifications he has?"

Ohfercryinoutloud, Orrin......... just grow up would ya? Jeez............

They don't like you. They never have. They hate everything you stand for. They have played you for a chump for decades. They despise All Things Conservative. If you don't "think" as they do, if you don't subscribe to the proper groupthink, then you are beneath contempt and there are no holds barred in their play book.

How come someone like me knows this and I've never served a day in the U.S. Senate, Orrin? Quit being a chump. Grow a set and learn the fine art of "brass knuckles".

63 posted on 02/13/2003 1:51:43 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: ZULU
"Wasn't Leahy a former Communist Party member."

Still is, it's called the Democrat Party of Merdemont.

64 posted on 02/13/2003 1:56:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~All our ZOT are belong to us~)
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To: XJarhead
Oh, so you're one of those "we change the rules as we go along kind of guys, huh? Implying that prior judicial service is a prerequisite for serving on an appellate court?

Before making that argument, you may want to check out the courts served on by Clinton's appointees to that same court. You may find that nearly half hadn't previously served as a judge either.


I never indicated any support for Clinton's appointees. It simply seems that the nation's highest courts might be better off if their judges had experience as judges. I don't think that makes me liberal.
65 posted on 02/13/2003 2:25:42 PM PST by freethoughts
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To: freethoughts
I never indicated any support for Clinton's appointees. It simply seems that the nation's highest courts might be better off if their judges had experience as judges. I don't think that makes me liberal.

Actually, I had the same reservations about Clarence Thomas. And he had had at least a year on the Court of Appeals when he was appointed to the Supreme Court. I still think his less-than-stellar performance on the Court bears out my judgement. However, this current nominee is far more substantial legally by what we can learn of him.
66 posted on 02/13/2003 4:50:40 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: kattracks
I saw Sen. Hatch on the floor of the Senate last night. At one point he genuinely lost his temper and began shouting at the Democrats who were also on the floor. The Chair had to settle him down with a gentle warning. I was amazed at the depth of his fury. There was also a Republican tag team of senators coming out to help Hatch by asking him to answer obviously pre-planned leading questions. In fact, it almost looked like Hatch was the one doing the fillibustering. I was proud of him.
67 posted on 02/13/2003 4:59:24 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Dan(9698)
The guy says the truth and still you guys trash Hatch! Unbelievable! I keep saying he's on our side, not with the RATS.
68 posted on 02/13/2003 5:14:52 PM PST by Paulus Invictus (Coke make)
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To: Paulus Invictus
>>>...The guy says the truth and still you guys trash Hatch!

I was just remarking that Hatch was using poetic license when he was saying there were 100 honorable guyes there.

No reflection on Hatch. It is just their way of addressing the rest, whether honorable or not. Several are not.

69 posted on 02/13/2003 5:22:27 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: George W. Bush
I agree that the GOP should be less limp wristed with democrat court nominations. The dems want to bias the courts because it is their preferred way to legislate new laws...by judicial edict. I think most Americans believe that laws should be passed by Congress. Democrats are not very democratic.
70 posted on 02/13/2003 6:10:53 PM PST by virgil
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To: YaYa123
Done. Thanks for the heads up.
71 posted on 02/13/2003 7:26:30 PM PST by SuzanneC
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To: SuzanneC
EVERY ONE, ESP FLORIDA FREEPERS, Sen Bill Nelson's staff this morning said that "he met with Estrada yesterday and is leaning towards supporting him." That means that everyone needs to start calling him now!

Phone: 202-224-5274
Fax: 202-228-2183

http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm


72 posted on 02/14/2003 1:26:14 PM PST by votelife
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To: votelife; YaYa123; All
Heads Up!!
73 posted on 02/14/2003 1:29:54 PM PST by SuzanneC
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To: SuzanneC
FREEPers, I have created the ultimate Estrada activism thread. On it you will find ways to contact Senators, newsspapers, radio/tv people, organizations etc. Go there and help support Estrada. Keep the thread bumped until we get him confirmed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/847037/posts


74 posted on 02/19/2003 5:59:38 PM PST by votelife
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To: kattracks
Wonderful..

Now, WHERE WERE these "explosions" when we needed them in the past?

I think he's been constipated and should "explode" a little more regularly around there..

75 posted on 02/19/2003 6:02:13 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Jhoffa_X)
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To: Braak
Both Republicans and Democrats have politicized the judicial nominations process in recent years, resulting in what I think is a looming constitutional crisis.

Below is an obviously liberal opinion, but it shows that both sides are playing games with a vital process, and endangering our democratic society.

They Started It

Excerpt:

"If we deny Mr. Estrada the position on the D.C. Circuit, it would be to shut the door on the American dream of Hispanic Americans everywhere," Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said in January. Last year, Republican Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi said of the Democrats: "They don't want Miguel Estrada because he's Hispanic."

Never mind that eight of the 10 Hispanic appellate judges were appointed by Clinton. And never mind that Republicans had no problem blocking such Hispanic Clinton nominees as Enrique Moreno, Jorge Rangel and Christine Arguello."

76 posted on 02/21/2003 2:05:24 PM PST by cogitator
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To: Kryptonite
I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to the future of this country to at least achieve some balance in the federal judiciary, which is currently loaded with so many Klintonites that every single basic premise upon which this country was founded is at risk.

That's untrue.

"Consider these statistics, gathered by the Democratic staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee. There are 13 circuits: 11 regional plus the D.C. Circuit and the federal court that handles specialized cases. If all of Clinton's nominees had been approved, the circuits would have been evenly balanced in partisan terms by the time he left office. Six would have had majorities appointed by Democratic presidents, six by Republicans, and one would have been evenly split.

But if Bush succeeds in filling every open seat, some of them vacant because Clinton nominees were blocked, 11 of the 13 circuits will have Republican-appointed majorities. In eight of the 13, Republican nominees would have majorities of 2 to 1 or more."

77 posted on 02/21/2003 2:07:32 PM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
President Bush can fill all those empty seats today, with recess appointments.
78 posted on 02/21/2003 2:09:45 PM PST by aristeides
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To: cogitator
There's no crisis as long as the mechanism of recess appointments exists to fill empty judicial seats. If it turns out that judicial nominees can't get confirmed in the future when the opposition party has 41 or more seats in the Senate, and recess appointments have to be used instead, that will just mean that we will have de facto term limits on federal judges. I'm not so sure that would be a bad idea.
79 posted on 02/21/2003 2:12:20 PM PST by aristeides
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To: kattracks
You mean he said more than, "gosh, oh gee..."It's about time some more of the GOP begin to sound more like Zeb Miller, a Democrat.
80 posted on 02/21/2003 2:12:48 PM PST by Macklew
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