[Hemingway's Ghost]

And it says right there in black and write: "Nor shall eight years be demanded when only 60 to 80 children's lives are needlessly endangered; rather, 3 or 4 weekends will suffice."

Your love of the whip and chain is duly noted, CJ.

[Cultural Jihad]

Your love of the whip and chain is duly noted, CJ.

Your need to personalize the debate has been noted, HG.