[BigBobber]

To me, this was the 2nd publicized underage drinking incident in as many months, and the judge came down hard on it to send a message. Ooooh...that nazi.

I see. So, for example, if there is a well-publicized case about illegal firearm sales, the judge should really come down hard on all subsequent firearm sales. Sure.

This collective guilt baloney has got to go.

[JCEccles]

This collective guilt baloney has got to go.

It isn't collective guilt that is at issue, but collective risk--risk of death and serious injury. The community should not have to tolerate that risk. The judge has a duty to push the responsibility back onto the plate of those created the risk.