General Cowardice

Sierra Times ^ | Published 02. 10. 03 at 22:43 Sierra Times | William Stone, III

[Razz]

Well said, Mr. Stone.

Unlikely to be well received on UN-Free Republic.
How long before it's pulled???

[The Raven]

I'm sitting here wondering if we are too late. If Iraq has already dispursed their bad stuff to Islamic fundamentalists and it's here in the US.

And - I wonder if it's been here a long time. Remember when one of the terrorists said the next attack will make 9/11 look like a picnic. They have something real ugly up their sleeves.

And how will American's react. Like a witch hunt? Shoot first and ask later? Door to door searches? How will the government act with war on the homefront?

[Blueflag]

Mr. Stone is passionate, but wrong. The citizenry have other duties in the honorable support of their nation's purpose than to take up arms. Not all can or should enlist. None should act as the lone vigilante.

Wisdom and purpose should overcome passoin in this case.

[SamAdams76]

Don't think I agree with Mr. Stone.

Being in support of a war to protect our national security while not actually doing the fighting is not cowardice. We have a very professional military to handle Saddam Hussein. I don't think the war effort would be better served if middle-aged, pot-bellied couch potatoes were to be enlisted. I suspect that Mr. Stone has an anti-war, anti-American agenda and that bears out in his writing.

[Blueflag]

*lone vigilante

exception for true self/family defense.

[uncbob]

I think he makes a lot of excellent points

[PeteyBoy]

How many shots with a high powered rifle did that buck get off before "Stoney" put it down?

[general_re]

I suspect that Mr. Stone has an anti-war, anti-American agenda and that bears out in his writing.

What tipped you off, Sam? ;)

[neutrino]

My, what an interesting scenario!

I, personally, believe that a mere rifle is inadequate to the problem. A 10 megaton thermonuclear device detonated over Baghdad would be more to my liking. Let's say a 5,000 foot airburst. Adding Cobalt would be even better!

Alas, I don't have the several million that a used Russian ICBM would cost (yes, North Korea would have a cheaper model, but I want yield and quality!); however, I see no reason why I couldn't start a joint venture with other investors. I dare say we could get quite a lot of interest in nuking Baghdad at $1000 per share! As an alternative, perhaps the US would be willing to sell us a missle...thus keeping the money right here in the USA.

Of course we'd have a drawing to decide which lucky participant would get to press the button and launch the missle!

So, if we can get enabling legislation passed, I'll be more than glad to start preparing the needed documents!

(Yes, I'm being silly...but the article's author started it!)

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

In 1941 we were a people. Today we are probably nothing but a population.

[Peter Libra]

I agree with Blue. Now if one wishes a man on man war, one could go to World War One. In England, in 1914, the recruiting offices were absolutely flooded with volunteers. In 1916 men had to be drafted. Even then, it was said at best, 6 or 7 men out of ten, would face the horror of trench warfare.

In World War Two, I believe the figure was that out of every ten servicemen, possibly only two or three were selected as front line. Why? because a modern army cannot exist without suppliers, cooks, signallers, clerks, armourers, and holding battalions.

What of a highly technical and intricate force today?. Those who think that a man can swagger in and say " Hey Colonel, let me at em, I will shoot down all of em' " must have been watching an old Jimmy Cagney movie.

Cagney of course, in one film,flew in to the parade in his own plane and then landed and told em' what HE was going to do. Hollywood hokum of course. A good read is No More Parades by Ford Madox Ford, on World War One. Yes, there was a General Headquarters- well behind the lines.

[knarf]

"In 1941 we were a people. Today we are probably nothing but a population."

I am an American by birth ... free-born.
I am a patriot by decision.

The go to war/don't go to war argument is nothing more than the right of the people to be armed or gun control/dis-arm the people.

Intellectualize it all you want.

The bottom line is ... Those that would wage warfare have bloodied noses and have had their noses bloodied.

Those that would discuss and politic are cowards and have never kicked ass nor had their ass kicked.

Pain sucks but it's a part of growing up. So is winning and losing.
Determiation is discovered by winning and losing.

[Hoverbug]

To quote this genius: No human being has the right -- under any circumstances -- to initiate force against another human being, nor to advocate or delegate its initiation.

Sure am glad I'm not this POS's wife or kid depending on him to protect me from bad guys. "Well my little daughter, I just can't justify initiating any force against this guy who broke into your bedroom. He hasn't actually initiated any force against you yet, has he? Well then, I have to just sit here until he cuts your throat, but by God, I'll let him have it then!"

Sounds to me like he's a whining, sniveling little left wing coward trying to say that those who call for military action to protect us are REALLY the cowards.

I believe it's called transference.

And BTW, the coming war in Iraq is NOT an initiation of hostilities. It is a resumption of the war started by Iraq when it invaded Kuwait, and placed on hold when Saddam agreed to a cease fire agreement. He has violated the agreement, and now the war continues. Kinda like a pause button on the VCR.

And I'm tired of you left wing morons continuing to push that lie!!!!!

Whew! Man, I feel great! You folks gotta try a good old rant every once in awhile! It's refreshing!!

[aculeus]

While I certainly don't agree with government warfare (it's immoral -- see my essay "State of Disunion 2003"),

Sure thing, chief. As soon as I finish Qadafi's Green Book.

[Shooter 2.5]

Let's go Mr. Stone. Where do we sign up? When the war starts, I hope the military drops Mr.Stone and I and a thousand other old guys right on top of Saddam's Palace.

Do you want to live forever?

[Cultural Jihad]

More anarcho-ideologue bloviation.

[dighton]

I'm sympathetic to someone like my grandfather, for example.

Awfully decent of you, kid.

Cripes! This thing starts at the bottom and goes downhill.

[Cultural Jihad]

Sounds to me like he's a whining, sniveling little left wing coward...

Insofar as self-avowed libertarians are also moral-liberals and moral-cowards, yes.

[Arkinsaw]

More anarcho-ideologue bloviation

I was going to say something but you done said it.

[VRWC_minion]

What an ignorant rant.