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U.S. Had Data Hinting of Okla. Bombing
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| 11 Feb, 2003
Posted on 02/11/2003 1:31:04 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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Here we go again?
So those Iraqis Tim McVeigh was running with just before the bombing were "white supremicists?"
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:31:04 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
To: Happy2BMe
Islamism, until demonstrated otherwise.
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:37:32 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Happy2BMe; BartMan1
Get ready for the Iraq-OKC connection, coming soon to a Presidential address near you.
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:38:37 PM PST
by
IncPen
( Every bite of every sandwich is important - Warren Zevon, on his terminal cancer diagnosis)
To: Happy2BMe
When did Clinton know?
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:39:51 PM PST
by
dfwgator
To: onedoug
"Islamism, until demonstrated otherwise." McVeigh had dealings with the Iraqs from Desert Storm.
Many witnesses saw him on numerous occassions travelling, eating, and conversing with former Iraqi military personnel living in O.K. City.
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:40:13 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: dfwgator
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:43:39 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: Happy2BMe; All
Jaynadavis.com
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:49:08 PM PST
by
donozark
To: Happy2BMe
Please come back Ambrose Evans-Pritchard.
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:52:47 PM PST
by
billhilly
(I don't know it all.)
To: billhilly
Is he dead? Sorry for being ignorant.
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posted on
02/11/2003 1:56:34 PM PST
by
axel f
To: Happy2BMe
McVeigh had dealings with the Iraqs from Desert Storm.
And T. Nichols traveled back and forth to the terrorist islands of Indonesia.
Jayna Davis
To: Happy2BMe
This story recounts the Carol Howe story. I remember Penthouse Magazine was the only media that would touch her story. Towards the end of the article it mentions how she was prosecucted on unrelated charges but they failed to prove her guilt. Had something to do with possesion of explosives by her "boyfriend". I think I heard the arsenal was a little more powerful than firecrackers but I could be wrong on that point.
the article does not mention how she was maliciously steamrolled in an effort to shut her up. I also remember a few years back an episode of "Michael Hayes" (a series about a US attorney played by David Caruso) where the Carol Howe story was protrayed almost to the tee. I think that and another episode likewise detailing the Ron Brown death led to its early cancelation.
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:00:23 PM PST
by
tang-soo
To: tang-soo
I've heard reports that O.K.C. firmen found a live hornet missle (used in military fighter planes) in the wreckage being stored in the fed bldg. by the CIA.
Go figure.
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:05:51 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: billhilly
I have following this story since Ambrose's work on the subject. I find Jayna Davis to be an opportunistic charlatan who has done nothing to advance the story.
That being said, look what we have here:
Though ATF agents had reports of dramatic threats against the government, they focused their investigation on making a gun violation case against a German citizen there, documents show.
Howe's identity as an informant was compromised shortly after McVeigh's bombing. The ATF noted in late May 1995 that Millar suspected she was a government informant and she was pulled for fear of her safety. The government later tried to prosecute her on an unrelated charge, but a jury acquitted her.
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:06:32 PM PST
by
JohnGalt
To: Happy2BMe
Everything I have heard indicates that McVeigh was associated with a group of skinheads that were being handled by an agent provacateur from one of the intel agencies. The John Doe #2 was once thought to be Mark Korenke, (a non-starter), then Islamic.
Isn't it interesting that both OKC and Ruby Ridge were a result of govt wanting someone to infiltrate skinheads?
Make you wonder if their plan for possible martial law to invoke EO 12919 is centered around a faction they think they can easily infiltrate and influence to stir up unrest.
There are some good audio presentations on OKC at this site:
http://www.reformed-theology.org/realaudio/
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:07:35 PM PST
by
Dalite
(... Comment to all)
To: axel f
No, Ambrose is with the London Daily Telegraph. While here in the states he was with the London Sunday Telegraph. He is now on assignment in Brussels.
He is friend, and I miss him.
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:20:37 PM PST
by
billhilly
(I don't know it all.)
To: Dalite
Make you wonder if their plan for possible martial law to invoke EO 12919 is centered around a faction they think they can easily infiltrate and influence to stir up unrest.
I looked EO 12919 up and found it
here. For those of us who don't have time or legal savy to digest it - what's this EO all about? Thanks.
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:26:29 PM PST
by
tang-soo
To: Happy2BMe
BTTT
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posted on
02/11/2003 2:50:55 PM PST
by
Marianne
To: Happy2BMe
So the "white supremacist" propaganda has popped up again!? I just read the same story in the Wash. Post linked through Drudge. Not one mention of the Iraqi connection.
To: Happy2BMe
News paper article on PRIOR WARNING on March 22,1995
The New Jersey Star-Ledger
Date: 1995/03/22 Wednesday
Page: Section: NEWS Edition:
LAWMEN GET WARNING OF PLOT ON U.S. TARGETS
ROBERT RUDOLPH
U.S. law enforcement authorities have obtained information that Islamic terrorists may be planning suicide attacks against federal courthouses and government installations in the United States.
The attacks, it is feared, would be designed to attract worldwide press attention through the murder of innocent victims.
The Star-Ledger has learned that U.S. law enforcement officials have received a warning that a ''fatwa,'' a religious ruling similar to the death sentence targeting author Salman Rushdie, has been issued against federal authorities as a result of an incident during the trial last year of four persons in the bombing on the World Trade Center in New York.
The disclosure was made in a confidential memorandum issued by the U.S. Marshals Service in Washington calling for stepped-up security at federal facilities throughout the nation.
The ''fatwa'' was allegedly sanctioned by an unidentified Islamic Iman, or holy man, in retaliation for what was perceived as a religious ''insult'' against Islamic fundamentalists by federal law enforcement officers. According to the memo, the information about the threat was obtained from an unidentified ''informed source'' who said the death sentence was specifically directed against U.S. Marshals Service personnel.
The informant reported that the threat was issued because deputy U.S. Marshals allegedly ''insulted'' Islam ''by stepping on a copy of the Koran,'' the Islamic holy book, during a scuffle with several prisoners convicted in the World Trade Center bombing.
The Marshals Service memo said the agency believes that ''there is sufficient threat potential to request that a heightened level of security awareness and caution be implemented at all Marshals Service-protected facilities nationwide.''
Government sources say authorities in New Jersey are taking the danger seriously and have increased security at key federal facilities in the state, including all federal courthouses.
The memo, issued by Eduardo Gonzalez, director of the U.S. Marshals Service, warns that attacks may be designed to ''target as many victims as possible and draw as much media coverage as possible'' to the fundamentalist cause
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posted on
02/11/2003 4:26:23 PM PST
by
honway
To: Happy2BMe
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo14no19/vo14no19_blackred.htm
Black and Red Terrorist Internationals
Laucks friend, former Oklahoma Ku Klux Klan factotum Dennis Mahon, appears to have attempted to put that plan into practice. Mahon, a frequent visitor to the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho, was also an habitue of the Aryan Nations sister community in rural eastern Oklahoma known as Elohim City.
The Marxism-spouting Mahon admits to being closely associated with the Aryan Republican Army bank robbers and to admiring the IRA terrorists. He boasts of his connections to Saddam Husseins intelligence service and admits to having been in its pay, beginning during the Persian Gulf War, when he organized several rallies for Iraq. During an interview with a Brazilian television crew, Mahon unrolled and proudly held up a poster of Yasir Arafat, reportedly one of his heroes
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posted on
02/11/2003 4:38:51 PM PST
by
honway
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