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Frank Herberts Children of Dune March 16 SCIFI channel
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Posted on 02/10/2003 2:48:07 PM PST by ottersnot

Children of Dune Miniseries. SCIFI Channel starts March 16th, 9PM.


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To: Lx
They have been out for the past three or four years. There are:

Dune: House Atreides

Dune: House Harkonnen

Dune: House Corrino

Dune: The Butlerian Jihad

They are all written by FH's son Brian and Kevin J. Anderson.

There are two more prequels to come and more continuing where the sixth book left off.

www.dunenovels.com

61 posted on 02/10/2003 5:51:04 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: DoctorMichael
Hey, it was a while after I had read the books until I noticed about the calendar.

Glad you like my site!

62 posted on 02/10/2003 5:53:50 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Cool, which order do you recommend reading them or do they stand alone?



63 posted on 02/10/2003 6:00:02 PM PST by Lx (What, me worry?)
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To: Lx
Read them in the order listed above. They are in chronological order, according to plot. If you read them out of sequence, they won't make sense.
64 posted on 02/10/2003 6:06:01 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
I think I'll buy em all tomorrow. Years ago, I noticed a friend of mine had Dune Messiah. I asked him what he thought about it and he thought it sucked, I then asked him what he thought of Dune and his answer was that he hadn't read it.

I can't think of another series of books where reading order is more important. Unlike Clancy's Jack Ryan series where each book more or less stands on its own, except for Executive Orders I think. Even then, I read it before Debt of Honor and it still made sense (I was on a cruise mind you) you absolutely have to read each Dune book in order or you'd be completely lost.

65 posted on 02/10/2003 6:24:38 PM PST by Lx (What, me worry?)
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To: Lx
A lot of people don't like Dune Messiah. For one thing, it isn't an uplifting part of the saga. The reader feels as trapped as Paul. When I first read it, it was almost as if I was reading a whole different story. I re-read it and it started to grow on me.
66 posted on 02/10/2003 6:32:55 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Not to go off on a tangent but here goes anyways (LOL)..........

1) I loved the SciFi Channel DUNE!!!!! Certain scenes brought me to tears. "Operatic" is the only word that I can use to describe it. I've taped it and have watched it many times since its first showing. Lynch's version was flawed and he had no idea, or appreciation, of the 'property' he was dealing with and instead indulged himself with his own qwirkyness. The exact opposite result was obtained by the current situation of Peter Jackson and LOTRs. You can tell the man (Jackson) loves the original work and treats it with the respect it deserves. Lynch only loves himself.

2) I've read the six Herbert Dune novels.
--DUNE was magnificent. I've read it 7 or 8 times. Paul always reminded me of the tragic Michael Corleone character in THE GODFATHER........someone who was reluctant to assume power, but does, to extract revenge because of his love for a lost father. He rides the tiger (Jihad) and is afraid to get off. This is the opposite of the Luke Skywalker character of Star Wars where the theme is essentially 'REDEMPTION'. DUNE's theme is REVENGE and Machiavellian POWER............much darker.
--DMESSIAH could have been a 'Part Four' of DUNE, it was so short. Interesting ending though.
--CofDUNE could have stood some editing; a little long with an interesting ending. The Preacher was a nice twist.
--GEofDUNE: Leto II = Osama bin Laden {?}.......imposing himself upon the galactic society, establishing his own religion, restricting use of spice and demanding he be worshipped as a Demigod. These themes are very totalitarian and are also part of the leftists and greens in the Democratic Party......restrict oil use, no SUVs, coersion, putting up Stalinistic Cults of Personality, etc. Totalitarian Communists promise Utopia; Leto II promises the Golden Path. The innocence of Paul Atreides (Michael Corleone) is corrupted and turned into a monstrosity (Ultimate power corrupts ultimately).
--Last 2 books (Heretics & Chapterhouse) bored the hell out of me. Some parts were okay but there wasn't enough meat and a lot of the grandiose themes of the earlier books were lost. I also didn't get into the new characters (Teg etc.). The story ended with the group blasting off for parts unknown and I got the impression Herbert had a 7th novel in mind.

67 posted on 02/10/2003 6:45:54 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Tag THIS!)
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To: ottersnot
Hope it's better than that dreadful remake with "Sting" Ouch!!
68 posted on 02/10/2003 6:59:28 PM PST by STD
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To: Paul Atreides
It is a downer compared to Dune. Especially since Paul knows his future and walks into it anyway. The Christ like parallel was lost on me the first time I read it.

Since you didn't like it the first time you read it, imagine your opinion if you hadn't read Dune first?
69 posted on 02/10/2003 8:02:52 PM PST by Lx (What, me worry?)
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To: DoctorMichael
The Director's Cut of the miniseries is awesome! There are some nude scenes in it, but there are also some extra scenes that add to the story. I highly recommend it.
70 posted on 02/10/2003 9:57:30 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Diana Rose
Dune is long and ardous for a 13 year old. My uncle gave it to me as a present, I had suspicions he didn't like me too much after the 60th page.
I'll second the Asimov Foundation Trilogy, as well as Asimov's collection of short stories. "Robot, I" a short story, and the second book in the Trilogy will feed your nephew's imagination well.
71 posted on 02/10/2003 11:08:02 PM PST by JerseyHighlander ((end rant))
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To: ottersnot
Their remake of the original Dune as a mini-series was dreadful; I expect nothing less of the lesser remakes.

And, BTW, did you know that huge sections of Dune were plagiarized from the works of Cordwainer Smith?...

--Boris

72 posted on 02/11/2003 3:25:57 AM PST by boris
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To: JerseyHighlander
"I'll second the Asimov Foundation Trilogy, as well as Asimov's collection of short stories. 'Robot, I'"

C'mon. Everybody knows that Positronic brains don't use Reverse Polish Notation!

--Boris

73 posted on 02/11/2003 3:27:47 AM PST by boris
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To: Diana Rose
I read "The Stand" at 10. Does that count?
74 posted on 02/11/2003 3:32:58 AM PST by RandallFlagg (MustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReepMustFReep)
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To: RandallFlagg
I read "The Stand" at 10. Does that count?

Only if it is important for you that it does.

75 posted on 02/11/2003 7:09:13 AM PST by Diana Rose (I hate all things french)
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To: RandallFlagg
I read "The Stand" at 10. Does that count?

I read it at 18. Scared the living hell out of me. I was afraid to go to sleep! Imagination is a wonderful thing.

76 posted on 02/11/2003 10:02:07 AM PST by hattend
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To: MadIvan
Someone needs use the screen name: "ClassyBlueEyedFremen"
77 posted on 02/11/2003 1:16:21 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: Xenalyte
Yeech - those Dune books have to be THE most boring series I ever tried to read. And I'll read damn near anything.

I haven't tried either of these books, but if you really want to cure insomnia, try either "Babbit," by Sinclair Lewis, or "Das Capital," by Karl Marx!

Mark

78 posted on 02/11/2003 1:50:08 PM PST by MarkL
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To: MarkL
I remember slogging through Babbitt and Arrowsmith - but for real snoozing, nothing beats Moby-Dick.
79 posted on 02/11/2003 2:36:08 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte
I remember slogging through Babbitt and Arrowsmith - but for real snoozing, nothing beats Moby-Dick.

Boy, ain't that the truth. I've started Moby Dick at least 10 or 12 times....key word is "started"

80 posted on 02/11/2003 3:36:47 PM PST by hattend (FR is really slow today...did world war 3 break out?)
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