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To: aculeus
If I had to choose betwen DeGaulle or Lydon Johnson in any confrontation I would choose DeGaulle. Not because I am un-patriotic. De Gaulle was a Great Frenchman and a great man. Johnson represented the tragedy of everything that happened to us as America swelled into an Empire.

I can't remember the exact quotation but at Kennedy's funeral DeGaulle remarked to an aide (or somebody) that Kennedy was the myth and Johnson the reality. Alas he was correct--as he was in so much of his critique of post-war America.

I wish an American President would pursue American interests with as much loyalty, devotion and fierceness as DeGaulle did French interests.

That's what really po's everybody. That anyone would pursue national interests in an age when the entire American political Class devotes itself to the global market...

58 posted on 02/10/2003 12:05:20 PM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
I wish an American President would pursue American interests with as much loyalty, devotion and fierceness as DeGaulle did French interests.

You are correct in this statement. France has always put its national interest above everything else.

We were in France 3 weeks before Sept 11., attending a family wedding. I was fascinated to hear the personal story of WW II from my nephew's new French family. Hearing them talk, you would have thought it ended yesterday. They have known war, intimately , unlike any of us can even imagine. And they have known it for generations.

Before we met them, we had our trip to Normandy. The town where we stayed had 6 structures left standing after the invasion. We walked the beaches and visited the cemetaries. All of them. American, British, Canadian, and German. We walked through the huge gun emplacements and gazed out at the Channel. We stood atop the bluffs, and I marvelled at the bravery of our men, our boys, fighting their way off the beach. I was overwhelmed with emotion thinking of them, fighting for their very lives. Until I stood there myself, I couldn't have a full appreciation of the sacrifices that were made.

I can't argue Frances' surrender in the face of overwhelming odds. They did what they could. I'll not blame their soldiers, their boys. I'll blame the leaders of all involved, that they didn't have the courage to stop the madness of Hitler and Tojo, and Mussolini when they had the opportunity. This is the lesson that MUST be recalled today.

In confronting the madman Saddam, I think President Bush is absolutely working in the best interest of this nation. He is going to stop him, "unilaterally" if he has to. That is what is driving the anti-war, globalist (pro marxist) faction crazy. I'm sick of listening to "expert" pundits from the Carter and Clinton administrations tell us what to do about North Korea and Iraq, after they bungled the job. These cowards, who were more concerned about winning a Nobel Peace Prize than protecting the interests of our country. They want a United States subservient to the United Nations.

Bush has shown courage in this case, as well as nixing the Kyoto accord, and the AMB treat with the former Soviet Union. Our national interest prevailed.

As far as other globalist leanings, that is another argument for another time.
87 posted on 02/10/2003 1:42:27 PM PST by baseballmom
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