Iraq turns over documents on anthrax, missiles (‘Change of heart’Maybe)

Reuters ^ | 02/08/03 | Reuters

[PhiKapMom]

The UN Inspectors held a press conference otherwise known as an Iraqi love-in this afternoon and heaped all kinds of praise on Iraq -- change of heart beginning, etc. Turned it off after about 10 minutes because I couldn't take it.

Then tonight the Washington Post wrote their article which I linked that made the inspectors sound totally different.

The press conference in Iraq was a bad idea but they didn't have to get so carried away with praise for Iraq IMO. They hadn't even read the small amount of documents and they are praising them. It was disgusting!

Best summed up by the Spanish diplomat on Saddam -- HE LIES! Would say that could be used to describe the numbskull inspectors at their press conference as well!

[PFKEY]

I think we know the answer to that. I'm sure he would in about a year or so but the UN is really a long long way from actually considering or even asking Sadam if he wouldn't mind too much.

[okie01]

Buried in the middle of the Washington Post story (where it should be):

The inspectors did receive several documents that Iraqi officials said would answer long-standing questions about Iraq's past nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs, specifically the production of anthrax bacteria and VX nerve gas, as well as the development of two rockets U.N. experts believe can exceed a 93-mile limit imposed on Iraqi missiles. But one U.N. official who saw the papers characterized them as "talking points" and not the sort of new evidence the inspectors had been seeking.

Almost diametrically opposed to the Reuters headline:

Iraq turns over documents on anthrax, missiles

Reuters is still living in a fantasy world. The Post has grasped reality.

[blam]

"The UN doesn't have a standing army."

Thank God. The EU has some military resources now I've read.

[Optimist]

change of heart beginning, etc

about 2 months too late. Deadline for declarations was December 5, 2002.

[A Patriot Son]

U.S. Not Buying Iraq's 'Change Of Heart'

BAGHDAD, Feb. 9, 2003



(CBS/AP)



In two days of meetings with Blix and ElBaradei, Iraq officials handed over documents on anthrax, VX nerve gas and missile development.


United Nations chief weapons inspector Hans Blix speaks during a television interview at the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad. (AP)





(CBS) The U.N. chief weapons inspectors emerged from key talks with Iraq officials Sunday, saying they saw signs of a "change of heart" from Baghdad over disarmament demands and that further U.N. inspections were preferable to a quick U.S.-led military strike.

Both Mohamed ElBaradei and Hans Blix were careful to avoid saying they were convinced that Iraq was now ready for full cooperation with the inspection program. Blix quipped that the "proof is in the pudding."

Asked about Blix's statement, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer noted that President Bush has said: "Given the fact that Saddam Hussein is not disarming, time is running out.'"

However, their comments about signs of change will likely strengthen calls by France, Germany, Russia, China and others to allow more time for inspections — possibly several months — and undermine U.S. efforts to win international support for an imminent military showdown.

In two days of meetings with Blix and ElBaradei, Iraq officials handed over documents on anthrax, VX nerve gas and missile development. But Blix said there was still no immediate agreement on a key demand, using American U-2 surveillance planes to help inspections.

"We are not at all at the end of the road," Blix told The Associated Press. "But nevertheless I'm bound to note, to register, nuances and this I think was a new nuance."

The weekend session, ahead of Blix and ElBaradei's report this week to the U.N. Security Council, could help decide the next steps taken by the council in the months-long standoff that has left the Middle East suspended between war and peace.

With tens of thousands of American troops in the Persian Gulf preparing for war, President George W. Bush reiterated that it was time for action against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Saddam "wants the world to think that hide-and-seek is a game that we should play. And it's over," Mr. Bush told congressional Republicans at a policy conference. "It's a moment of truth for the United Nations. The United Nations gets to decide shortly whether or not it is going to be relevant in terms of keeping the peace, whether or not its words mean anything."

However, many governments were looking for any sign from the two inspectors that the Iraqis might be responding to international pressure and that war could be avoided.

In the wake of Blix's comments, Donald Anderson, Labor Party chairman of the British foreign affairs select committee, said he hoped Prime Minister Tony Blair would now tell President Bush that the inspectors needed more time.

Anderson urged the prime minister to tell the Americans that it would be "illegitimate" and "extremely unwise" to move to war without a "much clearer mandate" from the Security Council, where opposition to armed conflict is strong.

Germany's defense minister said Sunday the Germany and France would present a proposal to the Security Council next week to send U.N. soldiers to disarm Iraq — a plan U.S. officials denounced as ineffective.

And Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose country holds veto powers on the council — reiterated his strong opposition to military action against Baghdad.

"We are convinced that efforts for a peaceful resolution of the situation regarding Iraq should be persistently continued," Putin told journalists after talks with Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in Berlin.

Putin also rejected U.S. goals of a "regime change" in Iraq. "The task of reckoning with Saddam Hussein does not stand before us," Putin said in an interview with France-3 television, part of which was aired on Russian television Sunday. "There is nothing in the U.N. Charter that would allow the U.N. Security Council to make a decision to change the political regime of one country or another
whether we like that regime or not."

Blix and ElBaradei, who make their next report to the U.N. Security Council on Friday, had gone into their weekend talks in Baghdad to press for greater cooperation on a range of issues — technical matters, such as using the U-2s and getting private access to scientists, and issues of substance, including answers to outstanding questions on biological and chemical weapons.

Blix told AP on Sunday that whereas in the past weeks Iraqi officials "belittled" the inspectors' demands, "for the first time today I think they were focusing upon these issues."

"I perceive a beginning," Blix told reporters earlier. "Breakthrough is a strong word for what we are seeing." But he added: "I would much rather see inspections than some other solution," referring to Washington's threats to launch a military strike.

Blix said he had received assurances that Iraq would expand a commission to search for weapons and weapons programs and "relevant documents nationwide," and that he had hopes that Iraq was taking the disarmament issue seriously

During the two days of meetings, the Iraqis submitted a number of documents related to outstanding issues of anthrax, VX nerve gas and Iraqi missile development, Blix said.

He said those documents would have to be reviewed intensively by U.N. experts in the coming days to determine their value. Blix also said he was hopeful that Iraq would soon enact legislation banning weapons of mass destruction.

Blix also said "we had some discussions with their scientists," but he did not elaborate.

ElBaradei said the talks showed "hopefully a beginning of a change of heart" from the Iraqis.

But he said that with the Security Council "impatient," he and Blix told the Iraqis "we want to see quick progress, drastic change. Something spectacular has to happen, a new environment in the next days and weeks."

On the issue of U-2 flights, Blix said he expected the Iraqis to respond by Friday. The Iraqis have refused to accept U-2 flights unless the United States and Britain suspend air patrols in the "no-fly" zones while the spy plane is aloft.

In other developments Sunday:


U.N. inspectors found another empty chemical rocket warhead at an ammunition depot north of Baghdad. Inspectors have found 18 such warheads during inspections over recent weeks although none have been loaded with chemical agents.


Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri visited Iran in a surprise diplomatic move. Tehran, a leading opponent of Saddam Hussein's regime, has rejected military intervention without U.N. approval.


Pope John Paul II ordered a special envoy sent to Iraq to emphasize his plea for peace and to encourage Iraqi authorities to cooperate with the United Nations.


Coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone in southern Iraq attacked an Iraqi military mobile command and control center near Al Kut, about 95 miles southeast of Baghdad, U.S. Central Command said.


Kuwait, a likely staging ground for a U.S. attack on Iraq, welcomed a decision by fellow Persian Gulf states to send troops from their combined military force to defend it against any Iraqi threats.

[LibWhacker]

“We should have a response on that issue before Friday,” Blix said.

BS! As if Iraq has the option to consider our demands, make a decision about whether or not it'll accede to our demands, and whether or not it'll "respond" to our demands with a definitive "yes" or "no" in its own sweet time.

If we say "jump," delay is only acceptable to ascertain how high.

This is the kind of misunderstanding you're bound to run into when you haven't completely and convincingly conquered an enemy you've conquered.

I'm sure it won't be a problem in the future. Dubya doesn't play games.

Kick their ass and take the gas!

[Indy Pendance]

A change of heart, hardly. More games. More stalling. The game is over.

[Mo1]

Reuters is still living in a fantasy world. The Post has grasped reality.

I'm more inclined to believe the Post article then this one

[Indy Pendance]

So, who do you believe more WP or reuters? ha, it's all a media game. Saddam is toast.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"Change of heart?"

No, just an adjustment in the scheme of things.

[A Patriot Son]

VIDEO>The U.S. is not buying Iraq's 'change of heart,' reports CBS News' Mark Phillips.

[Indy Pendance]

When they stop the spin, that's when we have to worry. As long as they keep this silly game up, we have the upper hand. Because, NOONE knows what's happening.

[Indy Pendance]

I thought is was 'pizza chants'

[Mo1]

I think we know the answer to that

Yes we do .. but do you think any one told France and Germany .. cause there is a fat chance in heck Saddam will allow that

[Optimist]

In two days of meetings with Blix and ElBaradei, Iraq officials handed over documents on anthrax, VX nerve gas and missile development.

FROM POST 45
"about 2 months too late. Deadline for declarations was December 5, 2002."

But Blix said there was still no immediate agreement on a key demand, using American U-2 surveillance planes to help inspections.

And we are negotiating with him because......? Notice that to Blix FINALLY getting declarations almost 2-1/2 months after the declaration deadline isn't significant.

[PFKEY]

I say France and Germany think too highly of themselves. Noone really cares much what they think.

[A Patriot Son]

[Mo1]

*L* .. Good point

[Indy Pendance]

Well, at least I got it out of my system, like noone cares.