1 posted on
02/09/2003 3:24:34 PM PST by
RCW2001
To: RCW2001
This is sad.
2 posted on
02/09/2003 3:29:20 PM PST by
Eva
To: RCW2001
Unions deserve what they get.
Socailism is not sustainable.
3 posted on
02/09/2003 3:29:54 PM PST by
MonroeDNA
(dware ROCKS!!!! 101 mussels in one sitting, rasied over $2000 to keep the lights on at FR!)
To: RCW2001
a lifetime of almost free health care for themselves and their families. FREE thats funny I thought it was part of a contract as wages earned...BIOYA
5 posted on
02/09/2003 3:43:49 PM PST by
joesnuffy
To: RCW2001
Just why is the government subsidizing the pension benefits of failed corporations who failed to fund properly? How does that work exactly? Does anyone know?
6 posted on
02/09/2003 3:48:41 PM PST by
Torie
To: RCW2001
The reason the steel company is bankrupt is because their retiree benefits package added so much to the cost of each ton of steel that they weren't able to compete in a global marketplace, even with government protectionism.
7 posted on
02/09/2003 3:51:41 PM PST by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: RCW2001
When the retirees were working, the steel market was very strong, in part because there was no foreign competition. Wages had risen so high that union negotiators started looking at other items to pursue, and began negotiating large retirement benefits. Unfortunately they did not secure the funding up-front, but relied on conditions to remain as they were so that the companys could pay the retirees out of the monthly profits. When conditions changed, the money was not there to pay the benefits.
Who's to blame? Probably the unions for negotiating benefits to be paid from future earnings. Those earnings are unsure at best, and also they were taking away from the future workers.
Could the companies have withstood the demands from the unions? Probably not, as it would be difficult to convince workers not to strike because "things might be different in the future."
I dont't think that taxpayers should bail-out retirees who negotiated pie-in-the-sky benefits. It should only apply to pension funds that are lost due to embezzlement or banking failure or the like. We have a basic safety net, called Social Security.
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