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Investigators weighing chance ice formed on shuttle vents; radar spotted object near Columbia
AP | 2/09/03 | PAUL RECER

Posted on 02/09/2003 3:21:51 PM PST by kattracks

SPACE CENTER, Houston (AP)-- Investigators are searching for evidence that a block of ice big enough to damage Columbia's wing may have formed on a waste water vent, a problem that plagued an earlier shuttle flight.

They also are looking closely at what may be two key pieces of Columbia debris -- a 2-foot piece of one wing, including an attached chunk of thermal tiles, and a 300-pound cover of a landing gear compartment, possibly the site of a sudden temperature rise moments before the shuttle broke apart.

One day after Columbia's Jan. 16 launch, military radar detected an object moving rapidly away from the shuttle. NASA said it is unknown what the object was, but the possibility that it could have been ice from a waste water vent sent investigators back to a detailed search for evidence that the shuttle may have formed ice throughout its mission.

Adm. Hal Gehman, head of a board investigating the Columbia accident, said Sunday that the object detected near the shuttle could have come from the spacecraft itself and could be ice.

He said the U.S. Space Command of the Air Force, which monitors objects in space, is providing data on the object to the investigators.

"These reports are emerging now right now," Gehman said. "It's too early to say if they mean anything."

The waste water vent, which is under the shuttle cabin, in front of the left wing, is used to expel into space both urine and surplus water generated from the shuttle's fuel cell power system.

Usually the water shoots out into the cold vacuum of space as a spray of crystals, but on at least one shuttle mission, in 1984, the water formed a basketball-sized chunk of ice on the lip of the vent. At the time, NASA engineers were so concerned the ice could damage the shuttle wing during re-entry that they ordered the astronauts aboard Discovery to use the shuttle's robot arm to break off the ice ball.

That heavy robot arm, which wasn't necessary for Columbia's 16-day science mission, was left off so more experiments could added, and the waste water vent could not be seen from the cabin by the seven astronauts. NASA spokesman Kyle Herring said it's possible ice could have formed and not been detected.

When Columbia fired its rockets to drop out of orbit, it could have sent any accumulated ice slamming into the wing where other data suggests there was severe damage to the thermal protection tiles. The theory is unproven and is only one of a number of scenarios being probed by engineers.

Although Gehman and the other members of the Columbia investigation board were appointed by NASA, Gehman said their charter gives them the authority to conduct testing in laboratories not affiliated with the space agency.

He said Sunday that the board will split up into three teams and each will gather data at different NASA centers. This will speed up the investigation, Gehman said. The board has 60 days to complete its investigation. Some critics said the board needs more time, noting that the commission that investigated the 1986 Challenger accident required 120 days to complete its investigation.

NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe said Sunday that no theory has been excluded.

"Nothing is off the table," he said on CNN. "We're going to let the Columbia accident board guide us in terms of their findings about what caused this accident."

More than 12,000 pieces of debris have been located in Texas and Louisiana, including what appears to be a hatch door with a hydraulic opening and closing mechanism that was found Sunday. O'Keefe said the debris will be transported to Kennedy Space Center starting this week where investigators will attempt to reassemble as much of it as possible, though it won't be easy.

"There is certainly no way we are going be able to reconstruct it. The pieces are just absolutely mangled," O'Keefe said. "It's an awful lot of tangled stuff."

The wing segment and landing gear compartment door found in Texas have captured the attention of engineers because they could have been near areas where the shuttle registered a rapid temperature rise during the last minutes of flight Feb. 1.

Gehman declined to say Sunday if the wing was from the left or right side and said he didn't know which side the landing gear door came from.

Mission Control received data from Columbia that showed a sudden rise in temperature in the left landing gear compartment and along the left side of the fuselage. The data also shows that there was increasing wind resistance from the left wing, forcing the autopilot to rapidly move control surfaces and fire jets to maintain stability. The craft seemed to be losing the control battle, engineers said, just before all communications with Columbia stopped.

NASA's shuttle missions are on hold now, but O'Keefe said Sunday that the agency is still preparing to resume flights as soon as the cause of Columbia's breakup is determined and any shuttle flaws are fixed. "We've still got folks aboard the international space station," he said.

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To: First_Salute
You may wish to adjust your hypothesis after viewing the following NASA composite image showing the underside of Columbia's left wing on lift-off before and after the foam debris hit. NASA's website says the resolution in this composite is not good enough for engineering analysis. However, to my non-engineer's eye, there is no difference in Columbia's wing before or after the foam insulation hit.


41 posted on 02/11/2003 4:19:16 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: kattracks
One day after Columbia's Jan. 16 launch, military radar detected an object moving rapidly away from the shuttle. NASA said it is unknown what the object was...

Blofeld?


42 posted on 02/11/2003 4:32:57 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Wolfstar
Thanks, but no wish to change; the video has plenty of good info in it.
43 posted on 02/11/2003 9:14:07 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: anymouse; First_Salute
Channel surfing on Dish Network tonight, I paused for 30 minutes on "Noticias", which appeared to be a Spanish station (Spain, not Mexico).

I could only catch about every 20 words, but was amazed at the things they showed which American TV did not. Troop deployments (with numbers) in the Gulf states, for instance.

They also showed the Columbia debris being sorted in what I assume was Hangar AF at the Cape. Some of the faces looked familiar. If that has been shown on US TV, I have not seen it.

What caught my eye was the entire window frame (intact) from windows 1-2-3 [where Commander Husband sat].

Damn...

44 posted on 02/12/2003 4:47:59 PM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
Speaking of intact windows, the first fuselage section to depart TWA 800, had all its windows intact --- the fuselage was torn away by the missile hit, NOT some "center wing fuel tank explosion." The missile's exit debilitated the starboard rivets cause the fuselage material to flap out to starboard and then up, peeling back almost like it was being removed by a large canned seafood "key," by the combination of missile shock wave and cabin air pressure helping it along.
45 posted on 02/12/2003 6:47:43 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: snopercod
Yeh, CNN's attention span and depth of coverage is abissmal. And FNC and MSNBC are worse. Now if O.J., JLo, EMINEM or WackoJacko were seen poking around the East Texas crash site, you bet there would be 24/7 coverage.

I saw pretty much all I needed to see the first day. It is curious to see what did survive, but it is tough to take too much of that, when you work with the guys going up next.

BTW, yes I know the KSC workers take their jobs deadly serious, but it is amazing how sobering a visual reminder, of what happens when things go wrong, is to those who complain about long hours and low pay. But you are right that it is the management that needs the reality check the most.
46 posted on 02/12/2003 8:22:33 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Sacajaweau
Columbia was equipped with an infared camera pod on the top of the verticle fin/rudder. If the remainig fleet were so equipped, only with a high-res camera, possibly with a wide-angle lens, maybe the post-launch video review could show if something went wrong. If not, the views of asscent and/or re-entry would prove to be very interesting. Also put one on the external tank for the same reasons.
47 posted on 02/25/2003 9:56:20 AM PST by NCC-1701
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