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To: justshutupandtakeit
Tom was a human. What else is new? I think the majority of the principles in his writing are correct and should provide us guidance. It seems reasonable to read the other founders as well for confirmation. Sorry, but I don't have the time to respond in more detail - whole books have been written on the subject by brighter people than me.
Also...
1) Hamilton won, didn't he?
2)State churches were met with resistance and ultimately disestablished.
3) Suppression of speech doesn't make it right, then or now.
Simply put, my reading of American history is that when one group wants to tyranize another they rationalize it by finding inovative ways to limit the applicability of the BOR - like the way DemocRATs wrote Jim Crow laws to disenfranchise blacks.
248 posted on 02/10/2003 10:25:35 AM PST by RKV
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To: RKV
No, Hamilton lost that case because the NY law (like that of many other states) did not exclude prosecuting newspapers for sedition etc. While the Alien and Sedition acts (which the Republicans were screaming to high heaven about) allowed truth as a defense in trials of newspapers the State acts did not. Thus, the fact that Crowell's statements in the Wasp were true did not prevent a conviction. After Hamilton's death the law was changed.

Jefferson's writings are at a terrible variance with his actions. He is the most overrated president we ever had and the one notable achievement of his administration, the Louisiana Purchase, came about through sheer luck. And he didn't even believe the U.S. constitution allowed it.
251 posted on 02/10/2003 11:20:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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