[FreedomCalls]

I read the bill. There is nothing in it that would prevent a future Democrat adminstration from passing another bill to re-impose an income tax in addition to this tax or striking this bill altogether and replacing it with another more to their liking. It could only be done with a Constitutional Amendment.

[Bigun]

There is nothing in it that would prevent a future Democrat adminstration from passing another bill to re-impose an income tax in addition to this tax or striking this bill altogether and replacing it with another more to their liking.

If YOU think defunding the IRS and requiring the destruction of ALL their records is nothing (That IS in the bill!) I guess we will just have to disagree on that point!

[Principled]

There is nothing in it that would prevent a future Democrat adminstration from passing another bill to re-impose an income tax in addition to this tax...

You're easily spotted.

Currently, we enjoy ZERO protection against being saddled with both an income tax and a sales tax. It's already legal. It could be implemented overnight.

After passage of HR25, there would be obstacles to having both... obstacles which do not currently exist. Hence, if you fear having both taxes, you do not oppose the nrst on the grounds you state. As I said, you're easily spotted.

The nrst
1) eliminates withholding
2) defunds the IRS
3) destroys all existing income tax records, save those delinquent
4) erases the entire income tax code from law.

Now, FreedomCalls, there may be a politician that proposes that we re-implement withholding, and there may even be a few pols that will go along with him/her... unless they want to keep their job.

Who would stand up and say, "let's spend 2 billion on an IRS again"? Hmmmmm....

With all existing income tax records destroyed, how could income taxes be re-implemented? We'd volunteer our information? lol.

Employers would have to start withholding again. Yeah, they'd be up for that...not.

And who will write the new income tax laws (the old ones are gone, remember?)? Who will vote for the income tax to be reimplemented... certainly not anyone who wants to be re-elected.

All those things will be obstacles to overcome once the nrst is passed. We currently have NO obstacles in the way of having both taxes.

Regardless, it is fundamentally immoral to tax income. Look into HJR 45. It's an amendment that repeals the 16th AND makes the taxation of any kind of income unconstitutional.

But you knew all this, didn't you?

[rwfromkansas]

There is no possible way to EVER completely get rid of the chance of it coming back. In the first place, a bill can't include a Constitutional Amendment; it would need to be separate. Second of all, when the Dems get control again, they could simply reinstitute an amendment allowing it if they could get support. Dream a little and worry about controlling them when the time comes.