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Canadian sniper cleared of desecrating al-Qaeda body
National Post ^ | February 8, 2003 | Stewart Bell

Posted on 02/08/2003 10:11:24 AM PST by Clive

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To: VaBthang4
My dad [former Recon Marine] chopped off VC limbs, ears etc etc. as well as tortured captured gooks for intel. Would you dare to slander him?

Dad sounds like a real winner. LOL!

41 posted on 02/09/2003 4:29:12 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: donozark
what is the russian death video?
42 posted on 02/09/2003 4:35:04 PM PST by Taffini (I like Tony Soprano even though he is a fat-boy)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
~Grin~

Thanks for the definition.

"Now, are you or your dad saying that being a Recon Marine or having a chest full of ribbons somehow excuses torture and murder on the battlefield?"

I think you dont quite comprehend my position. I am not looking to excuse Torture. I'd have to have a problem with it first.

Murder on the battlefield...that is hilarious.

43 posted on 02/09/2003 6:46:23 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: jo6pac
"Dad sounds like a real winner. LOL!"

Compared to you? Hahaha ~Wink~

44 posted on 02/09/2003 6:47:25 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: VaBthang4
..murder on the battlefield...that is hilarious....

There's nothing hilarious about murdering or torturing POWs, VaBthang, although I guess every Army has its share of William Calleys.

Was your dad ever caught, or charged?

45 posted on 02/09/2003 6:56:09 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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To: VaBthang4
..he has a chest full of ribbons and a body full of 7.62 bullet holes that qualified him to do all of the above...

What's his name?

46 posted on 02/09/2003 6:57:20 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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To: Clive; VaBthang4
I don't like it, but it's nothing worth ruining a good sniper's career over.

Seems that his commanders agree.

Those Al-Queda aren't even worth burying. Shoot them and leave them like the dropped after you rifle through their pockets, I say.

47 posted on 02/09/2003 7:11:33 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
"There's nothing hilarious about murdering or torturing POWs.."

Again your comprehension is lacking. Your run of the mill australian PC/effeminate mentality...that is what I find hilarious.

;o)

48 posted on 02/09/2003 10:18:35 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: VaBthang4; The KG9 Kid
The Geneva Convention states that prisoners of war are "victims of events," who merit "decent and humane treatment" and that the "willful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of POWs are flagrant violations. The Convention specifically dictates that each "High Contracting Party," the United States in this case, is obligated "to search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches, and shall bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its own courts."

What's his name?

49 posted on 02/10/2003 4:10:48 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Sam I am.....Dundee.

LOL


~Grin~
50 posted on 02/10/2003 6:56:21 AM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Taffini
The Russian "death video" shows Chechen Muslims beheading what looks to be a young Russian conscript. It was proudly posted on several Muslim web sites until they finally removed it. However, it can be found at other websites, grim indeed...
51 posted on 02/10/2003 7:44:33 AM PST by donozark
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Keep in mind people, we have taken hundreds of EPWs. We may be guilty of feeding them a cold meal now and then. Perhaps not providing them with enough dieticians, fitness counselors,etc. However, by and large we treat EPWs good.

Our enemy on the other hand took ONE US soldier prisoner and MURDERED him an hour later!

As for this Canadian soldier? He served honorably in time of war. He was charged with an offense. He was acquitted. End of story.

52 posted on 02/10/2003 7:49:54 AM PST by donozark
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
The Geneva Convention states that prisoners of war are "victims of events," who merit "decent and humane treatment" and that the "willful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of POWs are flagrant violations. The Convention specifically dictates that each "High Contracting Party," the United States in this case, is obligated "to search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches, and shall bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its own courts."

What does the Geneva convention say about spies? Basically, far as I know, rules of war regarding treatment of POWs have always applied to soldiers wearing the uniform of their country and to nobody else. In particular, spies have always been subject to summary judgement and execution.

Terrorists are definitely in the category of spies rather than soldiers wearing uniforms and the case of taliban 'soldiers', i.e. soldiers of a terrorist organization, whether they wore uniforms or not, is sufficiently questionable that I don't see any real requirement to treat them as POWs. The ones who get sent over here will definitely not be wearing uniforms.

53 posted on 02/10/2003 7:59:57 AM PST by merak
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
...one would think that after the damage done to the Canadian armed forces' reputation caused by the Somali torture and murder incident, that the top brass would come down like the hammer of Thor on the Perr's in their midst... Who are you to judge MCPL Perry's actions under combat. He has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

The actions of few soldiers in Somalia was an isolated incident from the remaining members of the C.A.R. After the disbanding of the C.A.R. a number of members from 1 Cdo, 2 Cdo and 3 Cdo went over to JTF-2, which performed flawlessly in A-stan. So what's your point?

After what happned the Ranger Task Force, I couldn't care less what happened to the Somalis or what went down at the Cdn compound, which had been repeatedly breached.

54 posted on 02/10/2003 8:55:16 AM PST by Aura Of The Blade
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To: VaBthang4; sneakypete
....Sam I am.....

Uh huh.

Well, you're not the first to be outed here, and you won't be the last.


55 posted on 02/10/2003 1:36:26 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Hey Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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To: donozark
...we may be guilty of feeding them a cold meal now and then. Perhaps not providing them with enough dieticians, fitness counselors,etc...


56 posted on 02/10/2003 1:39:30 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Hey Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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To: merak
...what does the Geneva convention say about spies?...

It says you can't mutilate their corpses, which is what we're discussing here.

57 posted on 02/10/2003 1:41:50 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Hey Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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To: Clive
Good. Jihadis have a tradition of violating corpses and performing nasty mutilations(eyes gouged out, penises severed and inserted into the mouths).
58 posted on 02/10/2003 1:41:53 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Yeah, you outed me. ~Grin~

LOL

I should've known you were friends with ol'sleepypete.

HAHAHAHA!!! Contrarian Nitwits flock together.

Thanks for the laugh.
59 posted on 02/10/2003 1:43:19 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Aura Of The Blade
...who are you to judge MCPL Perry's actions under combat....

He wasn't under combat.

After the combat was finished, is when he started cutting off corpses' fingers, sticking cigarettes in dead mouths, and taking happy snaps.

60 posted on 02/10/2003 1:44:36 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Hey Kellog's : hands off OUR chocolate crackles!)
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