Justin Raimondo -- Enemy Agent?

RichardPoe.com ^ | February 8, 2003 | Richard Poe

[Vigilantcitizen]

"On FreeRepublic.com, Raimondo admitted to me that he had never taken the trouble to thoroughly familiarize himself with the evidence presented by Mylroie and Davis, but nevertheless felt confident in judging their theories to be "tinfoil hat material" -- FreeRepublic jargon for a conspiracy theory so bizarre and implausible that only a nut would believe it."

However ironic, Justin never met a Billy Mckinney "It's the joos" style conspiracy he didn't like, eh Justin?

[jammer]

We know what Raimondo is doing. The question is, why is he doing it?

At least you're honest in being up front that this criticism is ad hominem.

[ken5050]

I wasn't questioning the commitment to the mission.....The RAF was always specialized, and trained for low-level bombing..the Tornado was designed for that..but new weapons systems accuracy have diminished that role...the Tornados were pulled off their low level missions after several were lost in the early days of the Gulf War.

[A_perfect_lady]

Well, in fairness to Raimondo... aren't we all just putzes with a Web site, when you get right down to it?

Speak for yourself, I'm a siteless putz.

[Senator Pardek]

Raimondo believes it would have been preferable for Japan to have been victorious in ww II -

It's at times like these that I tend to believe the wrong side won the war in the Pacific. Just think: if we all woke up one day living in some alternate history, as in Phillip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle, our cultural malaise would disappear overnight. Instead of listening to the latest loutish lyrics of Eminem, American teenagers would be contemplating the subtle beauty of the Japanese tea ceremony.

These are the thoughts of a crackpot.

You're wasting your time.

[HumanaeVitae]

He gets paid by the word...

And 'plowed' by the 'sword'...

[M Kehoe]

Hey Justin, we're talking about you over here.

5.56mm

[happygrl]

Raimundo is still seething over the Levitical Codes...

Whoah...let me guess...was it the part about cutting ?

It all goes back to that little nick, eh ?

[happygrl]

And 'plowed' by the 'sword'

AAAAaacckkk

Oh my.

[veronica]

Why is Justin Raimondo so vociferous in his screeds against our planned campaign in Iraq? I dunno, why is Scott Ritter? I have one theory actually, on some of that set. The reasons are myriad, but here's one IMO.

My theory is that for folks who have a clear and expressed anti-Israel agenda, any act, even if it benefits America, that is perceived to also benefit Israel, is disturbing to them. After all, Saddam pays blood money to the families of homicide bombers, so it can't be bad for Israel, for Saddam to go. And what's good for Israel, is bad for anti-semites. ;)

But when all is said and done, as James Taranto of Opinion Journal stated, antiwar.com is crackpot site.

I don't think Raimondo will respond to this thread. He's very busy writing a book on the UNTOLD BLOCKBUSTER story of the new millenium, the Israeli art student "spying" story. ;)

[Holden Magroin]

What else but kookery would you expect from a San Francisco gay activist who hangs out with Pat Buchanan?

[Torie]

I think a fairer characterization of Justin's views might be not that he wants American power to weaken, but rather that he does not want it used, or wants it used far less. Perhaps as a functional matter that ends up being the same thing. Morever, I suppose we would disagree whether a failure to use such power will end up preserving or weakening it as a very consequence of its disuse.

[BlackElk]

Actually, Justin is lamenting the fantasized lost social opportunities for folks like Justin which result from the death of young men on the battlefield and trying desperately to prevent the casualties since young men exist primarily (in its imagination) to serve its fantasies. Justine's self-interest and a willingness to intellectually prostitute itself in the cause of preserving imagined social opportunities, however repulsive.

The difference between Justine Raimondo and George McGovern is simply age and the fact that McGovern was inclined to marry and father children. Their respective service to the soviets and former soviets is rather congruent. Look what Justine did for Pat Buchanan. Imagine what he could do to America if anyone were foolish enough to nsuccumb to the siren song of his hybrid of warmed-over McGovernism and Neville Chamberlainism posing fraudulently as either "Paleo-conservatism" (which means not at all conservative) or as libertarianism (as though actual libertarianism were a support system for dictators).

If "mondo" means "world" then "rai" must mean "tinfoil in a curious blend of lavender and pink". Justine, baby, show me your friends and I'll tell you what you are.

[Pharmboy]

There has never been a world power like the US that has wielded their power in a more benign manner. Can you imagine--for an instant--an unopposed old-style Soviet Union? Leftist dreck like Raimundo hate the US because we are successful without commies telling us what to do. Whatsa matter, Justin, managing your own life isn't engaging enough for you and you need to manage everyone else's?

Islamonazis have always attacked the west--before there was an Israel or a US. The problem is with THEM and not us. Ef you and all the rest of you commie b*stards Raimundo. The US of A will prevail; we may occasionally get a bloody nose but we will do what we must no matter what the leftist scum bleats.

[Unadorned]

First, with all respect to Richard Poe and Lawrence Auster (both of whom I admire immensely), I disclose that am a member of the Anti-Iraq-war right -- I haven't yet appreciated why we must attack that country (but am keeping an open mind, I hope). I also appreciate this excellent post by Mr. Poe, and all the careful reasoning and detective work that went into it -- journalism at its very best! (something which Mr. Poe never fails to give us). I want to say simply, look at the name of Justin Raimondo's web-site: Antiwar.com. Think about that. Need one necessarily go any further than that, in understanding Raimondo's orientation? And isn't that particular orientation consistent with his recent writings?

Mr. Poe has elsewhere, and more than once, spoken of his admiration for Mr. Raimondo's skills as a writer of opinion journalism, and I share his admiration. Though I very seldom read Raimondo because I simply haven't the time, I don't ever recall a single instance when, having read him, I didn't consider his writing a treat to read (though I by no means agree with much of it). But if the man runs a site called Antiwar.com, can't he remain true to his site's aims as advertised?

[CARepubGal]

Well, my guess about Justine and with no desire to see the evidence....when there is so little there in the first place, a little nick takes a lot away....:-)

FReegards!

[Doc Savage]

Raimondo is a dork. He must have a Press Agent on FR to constantly have these articles about him. Let's all promise to let this nitwit slip beneath the electronic waves. Enough of this stupic Raimondo twerp!

[Richard Poe]

<< But if the man runs a site called Antiwar.com, can't he remain true to his site's aims as advertised? >>

Dear Unadorned:

It's good to see you on FreeRepublic!

To answer your question, Raimondo's antiwar stance -- like most antiwar stances -- appears to be fundamentally dishonest.

With the exception of Quakers, Amishmen and other religiously-motivated pacifists, most people who claim to be "antiwar" are simply using opposition to "war" as a mask for some other agenda.

This is certainly true of Raimondo, who does not even claim to oppose war in principle. Raimondo poses as a supporter of the American Revolution and the Founding Fathers -- a position which is incompatible with a pacifist philosophy.

The purpose of my recent blog entry is to raise the question of Raimondo's true motives and agenda, which I would contend are not at all clearly or honestly "advertised" on his Web site.

[avenir]

"Raimondo poses as a supporter of the American Revolution and the Founding Fathers -- a position which is incompatible with a pacifist philosophy."

So true. I imagine that a miraculous, face-to-face and sudden meeting with the Founding Fathers would strike terror in any number of moderns who bend and twist and distort their thoughts beyond comprehension. The snakes would scurry off to find the nearest rock to hide under.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

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